Will EE Qualify

[jpee]

OK lets start with DSR team.. he supposedly has Erica Enders .. now from what I understand her dad bought the PS operation she is driving...
Anyone think she will qualify in any of the remaining races this year? I don't!
Also I'm betting a 6 pack that whoever is driving the Slammers car next year finishes higher in the points than EE!

Even With NHRA's New Phony Points Chase System

I think the biggest mistake she (or her father) made was leaving Cagnazzi Racing.. since she left that team she has gone down in points like the Titanic..

DSR had great Fuel teams... but his Pro Stock just don't cut it (this year anyway) Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see EE do well.. but I think she (or whoever is making the decisions) is taking her in the wrong direction...

Also another good joke (not mentioned on Nitromater) is Shawn Carlson is in the R&D dept.... yea right... I wouldn't trust him tuning up my moped...Just MHO !

[DynoGrump]

I too am still tryin' to figure out the logic behind Enders leaving VC. I suspected at one point EE might have gotten squeezed out because of the eventual hiring of Jeg Jr. along with the Jegs money, but VC is still keeping Tom Lee in a car even when Jeg returns, so i imagine he woulda done the same thing for Erica. I cant really see EE being competitive in that Dodge anytime soon as there are only two people building completive Dodge motors, Larry Morgan, who has about a half dozen engines out there, only two of which seem to be completive and AJ who just took on Richie Stevens as a second car will clearly have his hands full. I could be wrong but to my knowledge David Nickens does not have a history of building competitive Pro Stock engines and Schumachers PS team clearly has not been a threat over the last several races.

dg

[Brute Force]

I think it was one of the all time career breaking moves. I don't see her qualifying for the rest of the season (well maybe if rain shortens qualifying). Shes a good driver but they just dont have the horsepower and I dont think they will get it. I dont think Nickens is the answer. If I were her, Id fire the adviser that suggested this move. Just my .02 worth.

[Nativeson]

I'm pretty sure EE's Dad calls all the shots. She's just there to drive the car.
I thought the Enders family bought the remaining cars from DSR and took Nickens with them. :confused:

[fuelfan]

EE did take the red car and Nickens, but I think the red car only qualified once or twice this season with Carlson driving and I am not sure if EE ever qualified in it. If they don't have Mopar as a sponsor, they could run another power plant in it like some did a few years back. She also could switch bodies for some factory support.

I don't understand all the moves she made either. She was making a strong showing for herself and slammers, unless someone was trying too hard to get in her pants, the move might have been a bad one.

Now this rising young star has to start at the bottom. Not only does she not have a competitive car, but she has a questionable crew chief and NO sponsor.

[CrewGuy]

Didn't DSR already try running allen Johnson motors?

[A Poole]

You can bet that Jeggie is footing the bill for the second Cagnazzi car.That's why Tom Lee will still be in the Slammers car and that could change before next year. I believe when Connolly's car rolled into the Cagnazzi shop,that was the beginning of the end for EE. If you read what Cagnazzi had to say about EE leaving,it was totally the Enders choice,not his. As far as her qualifing,I doubt it very seriously but not out of the question.This whole deal with Schumacher's P/S program has got to be the strangest thing I've ever seen. I like Richie and wish him the best,EE,she's on her own.

[JEREMYYOUKER]

Give Nickens some time...he'll creep up on it...he is no idiot...he was a terror in comp in the 90's and alot of his motors were in the top of the feild at almost every race..there is alot of focus on EE since she left VC...this team will prevail..i dont see them dominating like GA in the past,but like Connoly,when they line up next to her,she wont be taken likely....VC,Krisher,used to use Nickens power when they ran comp and are well aware of his capabilities

[Jackee Allen]

If you read what Cagnazzi had to say about EE leaving,it was totally the Enders choice,not his.

Think taking Utt away from EE to go to Dave might have had anything to do with that decision?

[A Poole]

Think taking Utt away from EE to go to Dave might have had anything to do with that decision?

Dunno,but why give up a free ride? This is a possibility too,maybe they figured Connolly was the best choice to win a championship.After all,that's what it's all about.

[Jackee Allen]

Dunno,but why give up a free ride? This is a possibility too,maybe they figured Connolly was the best choice to win a championship.After all,that's what it's all about.

Just saying that it might be the reason they left Cagnazzi. She was doing great in her 2nd year, with Utt. After he went to Dave, her car became a stone. It had been a matter of time before she started winning. Seems a shame to me.

[CrewGuy]

Truth be known- It was Greg's decision. He didn't get his way and he threw a fit with Cagnassi- then he decided to leave.

[A Poole]

Truth be known- It was Greg's decision. He didn't get his way and he threw a fit with Cagnassi- then he decided to leave.

OH,the old cut your nose off to spite your face deal huh? :rolleyes:

[Joe T.]

Since everybody is so scared of women doing well I can see why there is so much focus on her mistake. I read on a different message board that EE's contract was up in July anyway. If so, maybe leaving was not 100% her choice. What would make the better spin? Erica’s contract was not renewed or she left for greener pastures? One thing about Pro Stock, it isn’t an instant success class of racing.

[A Poole]

Since everybody is so scared of women doing well I can see why there is so much focus on her mistake. I read on a different message board that EE's contract was up in July anyway. If so, maybe leaving was not 100% her choice. What would make the better spin? Erica’s contract was not renewed or she left for greener pastures? One thing about Pro Stock, it isn’t an instant success class of racing.

Who said it was because she's a woman?

[Joe T.]

Who said it was because she's a woman?

Are you implying that if it was Eric Enders this thread would exist?

[fuelfan]

For that matter, what happened to Gene Wilson driving a Scott Geoffrion memorial car?

[A Poole]

Are you implying that if it was Eric Enders this thread would exist?


Probally.I don't know if you follow P/S or not,but you would have to know the story to understand why some have this opinion.

[techrat_77]

Are you implying that if it was Eric Enders this thread would exist?


I think it would....look at how poor Shaun Carlson was chastized on the forum boards!!

Her contract was up in July??? Is is normal practice for contracts to end in mid-season?

[jpee]

I think it would....look at how poor Shaun Carlson was chastized on the forum boards!!


Yea... Poor SC If you know anyone in PS you'll see how well he did when they looked at the computer readouts of his runs ?? In PS if you miss your shift point by 200-300 RPM the run is a goner.. maybe SC would do better in Import where a close race was 2-3 CAR LENGHTS... & if you screw up by a few hundred rpm .. you can still win if your car is FWD and its not critical when you can run .10 faster than the guy in the other lane,, but when you are separated by .020 you better know how to drive...

[Joe T.]

Shaun Carlson was a completely different story. That was a big dog and pony show put on by MOPAR. It was obvious that he was their driver from the start, yet they just had to put on a big show to prove Shaun Carlson was the best man for the job. However, I sure remember plenty of squawking about his hair and baggy pants. But I am sure I was just reading between the lines.

[Jackee Allen]

Truth be known- It was Greg's decision. He didn't get his way and he threw a fit with Cagnassi- then he decided to leave.

I'm sure it was his decision. When your crew chief is given to someone else, and you aren't running as good as you were, I'm sure you'd pitch a fit too.

[Jackee Allen]

OH,the old cut your nose off to spite your face deal huh? :rolleyes:

See my previous statement. Same answer.

Oh, and..... Here we go again. I can see you still have something negative ;) to say about this team.

[Jackee Allen]

Are you implying that if it was Eric Enders this thread would exist?


Of course it would Joe ;) You know there's no envy here. ;) ;)

[Jackee Allen]

For that matter, what happened to Gene Wilson driving a Scott Geoffrion memorial car?

That was a one time deal. I sent pictures to Scott's brother for his (Scott's) kids. "In memory of Scott Geoffrion" was so small on the car, I'm not sure if anyone would have known it was a tribute car if they weren't saying it on the mic.

[Jackee Allen]

Her contract was up in July??? Is is normal practice for contracts to end in mid-season?

It's up to the sponsor and team.

[panda2]

Just thought I would clarify something. Utt WAS NOT the active crew chief for EE and had not been for some time. Utt had been assigned to the engine shop and didn't even go to the races after Roy was named her crew chief. So, EE DID NOT GET HER CREW CHIEF TAKEN FROM HER. Utt joined the Connolly team at the beginning of the '06 season as Connolly's ENGINE TUNER, as Connolly was running VC's engines and Utt was VC's employee. Utt then became Connolly's crew chief at the Atlanta race.

[Hasben]

EE will never be a force in P/S or any other class for that matter, Look at the oportunitys she has already had, any real driver would have already won at least two races given the car she had with Cagnazzi at the end of her stint with them.

[Tire_Shake]

Officially I love to hate EE. Couldn't stand all the bias coverage she was recieving just because of who she was; doubled even because she rarely backed up the hype with a strong showing.

But even I concede that towards the end with the VC car they were running good.

And as harsh as this sounds I am tickled that her new team is in the crapper. :eek:

[Ronnie]

I don't see her qualifing anywhere this year.I could have sworn I read in a blog or somewhere that nickens was still just massaging gliddens motors.while i'm no fan of E.E. I certainly henjoy her stiring things up.I thing she left Cagnasi because daddy couldn't but them out.

[techrat_77]

I don't think Erica will qualify for the rest of the year, but not because the crew isn't any good or because she can't drive. In my opinion, the equipment she has just isn't quite enough to get there just yet. Maybe next year. The Pro Stock competition is so tough that there is absolutely no margin for error. Even the guys that can't qualify in the top 20 are not bad drivers. Maybe not great, but surely not bad. I'm not a big fan or hater of Erica, but when I see all the young girls lined up around her pit area looking for an autograph and wanting to grow up to be like her, I can't but help but think that it is a good thing for the sport. I wish she and all her team luck in the future.

[Hasben]

If you ever had the opportunity to race around the Enders gang during her sportsman days you would see why she will never have much success racing, If wins could be bought she would be the Queen, but they can't so she won't. I agree that it is great for the sport that she has the young fans attention, but I just don't see her having any success. just my .02

[geokenuae]

I was a fan and was always puling for her. But when she left VC mid-season, well you just don't do that. And going to DS? With their PS record? What were they (EE & daddy) thinking? Too impatient.
Worst career move since Tattoo left Fantasy Island to pursue "other career opportunities". (Aging myself with that one).
George

[RCN4HIM]

Worst career move since Tattoo left Fantasy Island to pursue "other career opportunities". (Aging myself with that one).
George

Hillarious :)

My kids are still wondering what to do with all thier EE Slammers stuff they bought this year at Joliet:confused:

[jpee]

QUOTE=RCN4HIM]Hilarious :)

My kids are still wondering what to do with all their EE Slammers stuff they bought this year at Joliet:confused:[/QUOTE]

I suggest they keep it with all the stuff that Rachelle Splatt, Lori Johns, and one other TF female driver (who's name escapes me) It might be worth big $$ in 30 years :D

[fuelfan]

Shelly Anderson

[A Poole]

QUOTE=RCN4HIM]Hilarious :)

My kids are still wondering what to do with all their EE Slammers stuff they bought this year at Joliet:confused:

I suggest they keep it with all the stuff that Rachelle Splatt, Lori Johns, and one other TF female driver (who's name escapes me) It might be worth big $$ in 30 years :D[/QUOTE]


Trade them for some Bernstein Comeback Red Tour shirts.:rolleyes:

Is it me or since KB had that "procedure",does it look like he's runin 300 even if he's standing still?

[FireEmUp!]

EE to sit out Reading....per NHRA.com....said they are sorting out their team...so is DSR still in control or ?

[Pat McGill]

Erica has been looking good lately. Hopefully we get to see her in Vegas.

[Paul_Page_Rulz]

Who would lease motors now from Enders/Nickens, and these same individuals are apparently going to team with the Enders? Misery loves company I suppose. I know Nickens has talent, but he hasn't been able to do squat with these Mopars.

[DynoGrump]

Who would lease motors now from Enders/Nickens, and these same individuals are apparently going to team with the Enders? ....

i believe its the same guy who currently owns the Brooklyn Bridge :p :D

dg

[jpee]

[QUOTE=A Poole

Is it me or since KB had that "procedure",does it look like he's running 300 even if he's standing still?[/QUOTE]

I may be dating myself.. but if KB sorta leaned forward, with his arms in back of him he would look like the "Hood Ornament on a 1955 Pontiac" I'm sure some of you "Old Timers" remember the chrome woman leaning forward on the old Catalina's :)

[enraeh]

QUOTE=RCN4HIM]Hilarious :)

My kids are still wondering what to do with all their EE Slammers stuff they bought this year at Joliet:confused:

I suggest they keep it with all the stuff that Rachelle Splatt, Lori Johns, and one other TF female driver (who's name escapes me) It might be worth big $$ in 30 years :D[/QUOTE]

I think she raced for about a year and a half for Royal Purple oils and then hasn't been seen since

[fuelfan]

I suggest they keep it with all the stuff that Rachelle Splatt, Lori Johns, and one other TF female driver (who's name escapes me) It might be worth big $$ in 30 years :D

Don't forget Kristin Powell!

[Tim5636sc]

I think it was one of the all time career breaking moves. I don't see her qualifying for the rest of the season (well maybe if rain shortens qualifying). Shes a good driver but they just dont have the horsepower and I dont think they will get it. I dont think Nickens is the answer. If I were her, Id fire the adviser that suggested this move. Just my .02 worth.I think it was the "BEST" move they could make. 1) they can have Nicken's BUILD his own engines under no pressure from the "DON".
2) They can test for next season and be ready for some HEAVY $$$$ in sponsors in the off season....(NOTHIN BeATS a Hot Female in a Male Sport....See Danica Patrick....Melenie Troxel,, and the other Hostess Chick...)
3) Greg Enders is a smart man, and wants the best for his daughter. "Shoe" wasn't in it for the winning! once Jeg left, he knew it was not "EcONAMIcALLY viable!" Just ask him...he's "HERE ON THE BOARD!" Oh and by the way....i'm gonna drive the Tampex/Hustler sponsored Top Fuel Dragster next year! And if you believe that....I have beach front property in Colorado for sale!
....just my .02cent.....Reminds me of the old AOL DRF!

[Tim5636sc]

I suggest they keep it with all the stuff that Rachelle Splatt, Lori Johns, and one other TF female driver (who's name escapes me) It might be worth big $$ in 30 years :D

I think she raced for about a year and a half for Royal Purple oils and then hasn't been seen since[/QUOTE]
Hey,,,,what about that hottie....danielle "Just Say Go" Deporter? After all she drove the "LUXOR" car before Rachelle Splatt! Also....next to Kenny B. when he went 301.70 in gainsville!

[jpee]

.(NOTHIN BeATS a Hot Female in a Male Sport....See Danica Patrick....Melenie Troxel,, and the other Hostess Chick...)

Nothing against EE but are you putting her in the same class as these that you mentioned ?

[Gary Jacobson]

It will take some time but,She will get it done

[The_Leaker]

It will take some time but,She will get it done

How much does that weed cost you smoke?

[Reinhart]

Just thought I would clarify something. Utt WAS NOT the active crew chief for EE and had not been for some time. Utt had been assigned to the engine shop and didn't even go to the races after Roy was named her crew chief. So, EE DID NOT GET HER CREW CHIEF TAKEN FROM HER. Utt joined the Connolly team at the beginning of the '06 season as Connolly's ENGINE TUNER, as Connolly was running VC's engines and Utt was VC's employee. Utt then became Connolly's crew chief at the Atlanta race.


That statement above is EXACTLY right.

It’s amazing how little some of you know about this. Anybody who has ever been in business knows that sometimes you have to make decisions about your business that look strange from the outside, but make perfect sense IF you know the facts. Here are just a few of those facts.

EE's contract did not expire in July, but there was a clause that allowed BOTH parties to pursue other deals, if the contract wasn't renewed by then.

VC had no problem with EE’s driving. Victor and Greg had some business issues that couldn’t be resolved. And that’s what both parties said when it came down. Do they owe you an explanation of those facts? No they don’t. As far as I know there is no bad blood between any of them, and I have spoken directly to all of them.

The move to DSR was the first step toward owning a team. Greg and Erica have ALWAYS planned to own their own team at some point, and now they do.

The last MOPAR to hold the record was Nickens powered. He can build engines to compete with anybody. Are they in championship form right now? No. But, give them time. David has been out of the PS wars for a while, and it will take some time to get back up to speed (so to speak).

And I’ll bet a few beers that EE will qualify again before the end of the year.

Alan

[stereoguy]

I'll second that. hit it right in the screws.

[Jackee Allen]

That statement above is EXACTLY right.

It’s amazing how little some of you know about this. Anybody who has ever been in business knows that sometimes you have to make decisions about your business that look strange from the outside, but make perfect sense IF you know the facts. Here are just a few of those facts.

EE's contract did not expire in July, but there was a clause that allowed BOTH parties to pursue other deals, if the contract wasn't renewed by then.

VC had no problem with EE’s driving. Victor and Greg had some business issues that couldn’t be resolved. And that’s what both parties said when it came down. Do they owe you an explanation of those facts? No they don’t. As far as I know there is no bad blood between any of them, and I have spoken directly to all of them.

The move to DSR was the first step toward owning a team. Greg and Erica have ALWAYS planned to own their own team at some point, and now they do.

The last MOPAR to hold the record was Nickens powered. He can build engines to compete with anybody. Are they in championship form right now? No. But, give them time. David has been out of the PS wars for a while, and it will take some time to get back up to speed (so to speak).

And I’ll bet a few beers that EE will qualify again before the end of the year.

Alan

From your lips to God's ears. I hope she does.

[Prestaged]

From your lips to God's ears. I hope she does.

Me, too! Enough foolishness.

[Reinhart]

Just curious how many of you thought that Tony Pedregon made a “Career Ending Mistake” when he left JFR? And how many of you still think so? He walked away from the championship winning car and team because he wanted to own and build his own. He went through some tough times, but today it looks like he made the right choice. At least it does to me.

Alan

[DynoGrump]

Just curious how many of you thought that Tony Pedregon made a “Career Ending Mistake” when he left JFR? And how many of you still think so? He walked away from the championship winning car and team because he wanted to own and build his own. He went through some tough times, but today it looks like he made the right choice. At least it does to me.

Alan

yeah, but he had a race winning co crew chief and a huge oil company as a sponsor lined up for his new team. Enders has neither !!

dg

[Joe T.]

Just curious how many of you thought that Tony Pedregon made a “Career Ending Mistake” when he left JFR? And how many of you still think so? He walked away from the championship winning car and team because he wanted to own and build his own. He went through some tough times, but today it looks like he made the right choice. At least it does to me.

Alan

I never thought about it....... However....Tony paid his dues. He also took some key players with him when he left. Greg Anderson put in 12 years. If you look at the current Pro Stock field you will see a lot of drivers and crew that have been in the trenches for decades.

I would like the see a list of over night success stories in NHRA Pro Stock.

[Bob Korreck]

I thought he made a huge mistake and I still think that. Since he jumped ship he hasn't won too many rounds. Is that how we measure if he did or didn't make a mistake?

I think he's the only one that can answer that. If the guy is happy and doing what he wants to in life perhaps round wins is secondary.

[jpee]

I thought he made a huge mistake and I still think that. Since he jumped ship he hasn't won too many rounds. Is that how we measure if he did or didn't make a mistake?

I think he's the only one that can answer that. If the guy is happy and doing what he wants to in life perhaps round wins is secondary.

What is being said about Tony Pedregon, can also be said for Gary Denshim.. He had an E Ticket Ride With Force & decided to go it on his own...Hellova nice guy, but his win/loss record ain't what it was when he raced for Force....

[Bob Korreck]

What is being said about Tony Pedregon, can also be said for Gary Denshim.. He had an E Ticket Ride With Force & decided to go it on his own...Hellova nice guy, but his win/loss record ain't what it was when he raced for Force....

I think Force made the decision for Gary to leave. I have not seen him win a round since. Second thought maybe I did see him win one. **** memory is gone. :confused:

[Reinhart]

I thought he made a huge mistake and I still think that. Since he jumped ship he hasn't won too many rounds. Is that how we measure if he did or didn't make a mistake?

I think he's the only one that can answer that. If the guy is happy and doing what he wants to in life perhaps round wins is secondary.

Tony is fourth in points, his second year as an owner, he has won a few races, I think he is doing just fine.

Alan

[Bob Korreck]

Tony is fourth in points, his second year as an owner, he has won a few races, I think he is doing just fine.

Alan

Yep, I know he's 4th in points. You asked the question and I replied.

[dragnut888]

As far as I know, Gary didn't want to leave Force. A sponsor or sponsors wanted it that way. I would love to see him win one on his own. He has won a few rounds on his own bucks but not enough. He deserves more for all he has done for the sport, the kids he taught, spoke to and worked with. As far as Tony goes, good luck but no longer a fan. Now that I think about it, I never really was!:rolleyes:

[Bob Korreck]

As far as I know, Gary didn't want to leave Force. A sponsor or sponsors wanted it that way. I would love to see him win one on his own. He has won a few rounds on his own bucks but not enough. He deserves more for all he has done for the sport, the kids he taught, spoke to and worked with. As far as Tony goes, good luck but no longer a fan. Now that I think about it, I never really was!:rolleyes:

I also really like Gary. I think Force got rid of him to make room for either Eric or Robert. Can't remember which one.

John is a smart business man and he knows he has to turn it over to the younger generation. I think Gary understood that and didn't express any hard feelings.

I think he got screwed, but that's just my opinion.

[Joe T.]

I also really like Gary. I think Force got rid of him to make room for either Eric or Robert. Can't remember which one.

John is a smart business man and he knows he has to turn it over to the younger generation. I think Gary understood that and didn't express any hard feelings.

I think he got screwed, but that's just my opinion.

Robert drives Gary's old car/team. I don't think anyone got screwed. Gary drove for Force... now he doesn't. Simple as that.

[Lloyd Christmas]

I also really like Gary. I think Force got rid of him to make room for either Eric or Robert. Can't remember which one.

John is a smart business man and he knows he has to turn it over to the younger generation. I think Gary understood that and didn't express any hard feelings.

I think he got screwed, but that's just my opinion.

I would like to know how he got screwed. He was in a first class ride for a few years. If that is being screwed, I want to be next.

[gary4205]

Densham has done pretty well on the IHRA tour. He won San Antonio and in Milan. I think he was part of the "split descision" at Norwalk, but I may be wrong. I don't follow IHRA that well, even though this is IHRA country. IHRA's website is a mess, but I would think Gary is doing well points wise, just can't find it on the IHRA site.

I know it ain't the NHRA, but Densham certainly ain't letting any grass grow under his feet!

[The_Leaker]

Tony is fourth in points, his second year as an owner, he has won a few races, I think he is doing just fine.

Alan


Tony is great be he will never be a gene snow !!!!:D :D :D

[Bob Korreck]

I would like to know how he got screwed. He was in a first class ride for a few years. If that is being screwed, I want to be next.

I think he got screwed because Force cut him for another driver. Gary and John go back over 30 yrs. Gary was a contender every week.

I felt bad for Gary because he was left out in the cold. I would have thought because of their friendship John would have kept him on as long as he continued to win.

I'm a Force fan and I know why John did what he did. I still feel bad for Gary and I still think he got screwed.

[The_Leaker]

Ya think maybe just maybe "AAA" wanted a different look for its image?


Sponsers have alot to do with who and whos not in the car...


Case inpoint... Fast Jack... who buy the way was a sportsman world champion!!


Nice to see the motorhome racers moving up in the ranks..

[DanLynch]

Tony is fourth in points, his second year as an owner, he has won a few races, I think he is doing just fine.

Alan

I wouldn't be doing my job if I let this slip...

Isn't this his third year as a car owner?

[Bob Korreck]

Ya think maybe just maybe "AAA" wanted a different look for its image?


Sponsers have alot to do with who and whos not in the car...


Case inpoint... Fast Jack... who buy the way was a sportsman world champion!!


Nice to see the motorhome racers moving up in the ranks..

You may be right, I don't know. But if you are right, why would they not want a winner to continue as 'Their Guy'?

[Bob Korreck]

I wouldn't be doing my job if I let this slip...

Isn't this his third year as a car owner?

I wasn't gonna say that. :D

[Justin League]

I will say that when Tony P left Force I thought it was the worse move in the history of the sport. It hasnt worked out too bad right now but like others mentioned, it helps when you take your crew chief and have major financial backing already lined up. There's a big difference from him and the Enders situation. Championship team vs. a non qualifying team.

[Nater99]

I think he got screwed because Force cut him for another driver. Gary and John go back over 30 yrs. Gary was a contender every week.

I felt bad for Gary because he was left out in the cold. I would have thought because of their friendship John would have kept him on as long as he continued to win.

I'm a Force fan and I know why John did what he did. I still feel bad for Gary and I still think he got screwed.

It was a choice of family over friends. Sure, he could have put him in Eric's car, but Gary's getting close to the end of his career.

[Nitro1102]

Densham's departure was a sponsor decision....business is business....the best option for Force was bringing Robert on board, with the sponsor's blessing; he hasn't done a bad job, has he? If you know Robert, that guy has worked his butt off through the years, being with Primm, TJ, and Force--the guy could be a crewchief if he wanted. I remember him telling me over 12 years ago when he worked for TJ, he wanted to learn as much as possible and hopefully one day drive....nice to live the dream.

[Bobby Bennett]

I too am still tryin' to figure out the logic behind Enders leaving VC. I suspected at one point EE might have gotten squeezed out because of the eventual hiring of Jeg Jr. along with the Jegs money, but VC is still keeping Tom Lee in a car even when Jeg returns, so i imagine he woulda done the same thing for Erica. I cant really see EE being competitive in that Dodge anytime soon as there are only two people building completive Dodge motors, Larry Morgan, who has about a half dozen engines out there, only two of which seem to be completive and AJ who just took on Richie Stevens as a second car will clearly have his hands full. I could be wrong but to my knowledge David Nickens does not have a history of building competitive Pro Stock engines and Schumachers PS team clearly has not been a threat over the last several races.

dg


I can tell you that Jegs is NOT bringing money to the SLAMMERS deal. They only reason Jegs and Jegs.com is on the car is because it was part of the negotiation process. I can't blame them...in the unlikelihood I'd ever drive a car - having Torco's CompetitionPlus.com on the side of the car would be mandatory.

[Bob Korreck]

Densham's departure was a sponsor decision....business is business....the best option for Force was bringing Robert on board, with the sponsor's blessing; he hasn't done a bad job, has he? If you know Robert, that guy has worked his butt off through the years, being with Primm, TJ, and Force--the guy could be a crewchief if he wanted. I remember him telling me over 12 years ago when he worked for TJ, he wanted to learn as much as possible and hopefully one day drive....nice to live the dream.

Nitro, I don't think it was a sponsor decision. Force said he wanted to get the younger generation started.. He said his days were numbered.

I am not knocking Force. It was a business decision. And Robert seems like a great guy. And I agree he's doing a great job.

Gary just got caught in the middle and I will still think to the day I die he got screwed. At the next event I get to I will try and ask him. I just hope he gets the funds he needs to put that car in the winners circle. He's really close to doing that.

[Gary Jacobson]

I can tell you that Jegs is NOT bringing money to the SLAMMERS deal. They only reason Jegs and Jegs.com is on the car is because it was part of the negotiation process. I can't blame them...in the unlikelihood I'd ever drive a car - having Torco's CompetitionPlus.com on the side of the car would be mandatory.
That's what you need to do Bobby,drive a prostocker:D :D :p

[596SG]

O.K. Quick question, why did the Enders’ decide to go with a Mopar program?
With all the problems the existing teams are having getting parts (i.e. Larry Morgan) how much pull will a new team and Nickens have with Mopar? I can understand wanting to own your own team, but why not use a GM product, you could always lease engines from a reputable builder (Schmidt, Jenkins, etc.) until your own engine program takes off.

[fuelfan]

Maybe Nickens' history with Mopar, and that's what DSR had to sell...

[KNIGHTRIDER]

She didn't make it this week either.:(

[Nitro1102]

Nitro, I don't think it was a sponsor decision. Force said he wanted to get the younger generation started.. He said his days were numbered.

I am not knocking Force. It was a business decision. And Robert seems like a great guy. And I agree he's doing a great job.

Gary just got caught in the middle and I will still think to the day I die he got screwed. At the next event I get to I will try and ask him. I just hope he gets the funds he needs to put that car in the winners circle. He's really close to doing that.

I'll give you that; I know Force had to "sell" Eric Medlen to Castrol, and had to do the same with Robert--to a lesser extent, though. Force's days are still plentiful--while he has the New Generation "in training":rolleyes: , his contract with Castrol as a driver runs until 2010, I believe. Sorry to deviate from the Erica thread....as already reported--no new news--didn't qualify.

[DynoGrump]

She didn't make it this week either.:(

but her former ride made a killer run the last session to take the fourth spot !!


why erica , Why, why, ...........


dg

[Tire_Shake]

^^ Ditto

We have pretty much talked it to death already and dispite what I think of her or not, that VC car was a ride she should have stuck with.

Two seasons in that thing and then she could have gone off and tried to make a "big" splash.

[Lee]

I think that Jeggie may have started nudging her out of that ride many months ago..................

[Nater99]

I don't see why you'd want to own your own team anyway. Then you have so much more to worry about instead of just driving the car and doing your job.

[ubtheone]

Noticed on the Dallas qualifying show, EE had nice eye catching EE motorsports emblem on her shirt. When asked about the proposed 2 car team, she told Gary that she could not discuss this matter. Team looks promising.

[anotheridiot]

I don't see why you'd want to own your own team anyway. Then you have so much more to worry about instead of just driving the car and doing your job.

Basically why most people go into business for themselves, so there is no one to blame but themselves when things dont work out.

On the other side of the shumacher shakeup, seems like others are finally working like a team.

8. Allen Johnson J & J Racing Stratus 6.728 204.39
9. Richie Stevens Mopar/Valspar Stratus 6.728 203.77

[Simply Fuelish]

Well, I just hope she can make something of herself before the money runs out...which is soon I would imagine.

[Danny Pease]

I think that Jeggie may have started nudging her out of that ride many months ago..................

BINGO!

Danny

[stereoguy]

Nope.....go fish.

Her and Jeggie are good buddies, talk all the time.

[DynoGrump]

it was reported that Tom Lee will be in a car next year along side Jegs so if EE had stayed i imagine she and jeg woulda been teammates, so appears jeg didn't squeeze her out of that ride and also in an earlier post Bobby Bennet said Jeg is not bringing cash to the team !!

dg