View Full Version : Gonna be Harder to Qualify in PS next year!!
DynoGrump
09-13-2006, 09:41 PM
This season there were a couple of races where the PS field was kinda light and all it took was maybe a solid pass to get qualified. However next year i do not think there is gonna be any freebies with the return of Jeg, Hammonds,and the two cars that are supposedly gonna be owned by the football payer with Jenkins motors , Benza now with Glidden/Maskins Motor, and the Steve Schmidt powered cars seem to be making a comeback.
dg
Toyse Woody, Jr
09-13-2006, 11:58 PM
and the two cars that are supposedly gonna be owned by the football payer with Jenkins motors ,
dg
Who is fielding them?
PS will very interesting next year with all the silly season rumors going on now if they all pan out. It will be a race to INDY..
I don't think any race this year in PS was easy to qualify... maybe someone can check but I bet there was no field where there was more than .08 or .09 from #1 to #16 and many times the #17 car was only .001 from making the field...
Even if there are only 20 PS that show up it will be "TOUGH" to make the field! Look at the Nitro classes there is well over .2 from 1 to 16 spot..
Chris Simmons
09-14-2006, 01:28 AM
duce staley team with billy gibson and jim yates driving i noticed was on the rumor mill not too long ago. should be interesting.
anotheridiot
09-14-2006, 11:00 AM
Just harder, with 4-6 new cars in this field of 25-30 that show up for a race. There will be some big names going home early thats for sure. Who knows, maybe nhra will expand the field. Its not like any of these guys can compete in IHRA with their no rules prostock going against 700 cubic inch engines so what else are they supposed to do?
Toyse Woody, Jr
09-14-2006, 12:01 PM
Story is here:
http://www.competitionplus.com/2006_09/news_dirt.html
Justin League
09-14-2006, 12:37 PM
Why dont you ask Erica Enders or Shaun Carlson if its easy to qualify this year? Or to better make the point, WJ or KJ since both of them have missed a field or 2 this year.
Jackee Allen
09-14-2006, 12:55 PM
like the good old days when 35 cars would show up for 16 spots.
The_Leaker
09-15-2006, 11:14 AM
watch the yellow cars next year wooo whoo
jeggie was fast at dinwiddie testing tuesday...
Sidewinder
09-16-2006, 02:54 AM
I don't know who's talking to who, but every race it's tough to qualfiy, ask E.E.,W.J.,K.J.,or almost all the other regulars except for the Summit Cars. This is the most competative class out there.
larrydavis427
10-23-2006, 11:49 PM
I don't know who's talking to who, but every race it's tough to qualfiy, ask E.E.,W.J.,K.J.,or almost all the other regulars except for the Summit Cars. This is the most competative class out there.
Your absolutely right!! This class puts on the best qualifying show in all of motorsports!! NHRA needs to increase the size of fields and also increase payouts!!Espn announcers realize this and the NItro cars just don't come across as well as Pro Stock on tv!!
Bob Korreck
10-24-2006, 02:22 AM
This season there were a couple of races where the PS field was kinda light and all it took was maybe a solid pass to get qualified. However next year i do not think there is gonna be any freebies with the return of Jeg, Hammonds,and the two cars that are supposedly gonna be owned by the football payer with Jenkins motors , Benza now with Glidden/Maskins Motor, and the Steve Schmidt powered cars seem to be making a comeback.
dg
I don't think there were any freebies this year Dyno. I think Greg and Jason made em all work just a bit harder. :)
And I agree next year is gonna be one of the best.
TheFuture
10-24-2006, 02:34 AM
I really agree that they should do something to make a bigger field. I mean, some cars as far back as 20th qualifier have a chance to win a race with how close they are, and in Pro Stock the races are won and lost on holeshots constantly.
Jackee Allen
10-24-2006, 09:15 AM
This season there were a couple of races where the PS field was kinda light and all it took was maybe a solid pass to get qualified. However next year i do not think there is gonna be any freebies with the return of Jeg, Hammonds,and the two cars that are supposedly gonna be owned by the football payer with Jenkins motors , Benza now with Glidden/Maskins Motor, and the Steve Schmidt powered cars seem to be making a comeback.
dg
Freebies in Pro Stock? :eek: I wonder what I've been watching all season? :confused: I didn't see no stinkin' freebies! ;)
techrat_77
10-24-2006, 03:01 PM
Pro Stock should be pretty exciting next year indeed! Anderson and Line still have a stranglehold on the class, but everyone keeps inching closer! I'm still of the opinion that we should go with a 32 car field if there are that many entries and just drop the 4th round of qualifying. That would limit the frustration of all those folks that go out every week and come up a gnat's eyelash short of making the field. It's just my opinion, but I think that would increase fan interest and excitment in Pro Stock more than a silly "chase to the championship". It's astounding to think of how little of a second is all the separates the top drivers in the class from the "bums".
Mustang Eddie
10-24-2006, 03:21 PM
Pro Stock should be pretty exciting next year indeed! Anderson and Line still have a stranglehold on the class, but everyone keeps inching closer! I'm still of the opinion that we should go with a 32 car field if there are that many entries and just drop the 4th round of qualifying. That would limit the frustration of all those folks that go out every week and come up a gnat's eyelash short of making the field. It's just my opinion, but I think that would increase fan interest and excitment in Pro Stock more than a silly "chase to the championship". It's astounding to think of how little of a second is all the separates the top drivers in the class from the "bums".I totally agree.
sld72382
10-24-2006, 03:38 PM
I agree, PS will be tougher next year than it was this year! Although I like the parity, brings excitement knowing anybody can win from those 16 spots.
And it's not just pro stock. TF and FC are becoming Pro Stock-like in the competition. It used to be 5-6 years ago, if you were qualified 1-5 it meant an easy win in round 1, unless something breaks. Not anymore!
Not to hijack the thread.. but the Bud Shootout is also getting phoney... they take the top 7 cars.. then the 8th is a wild card picked out of a hat (supposedly) hell its only 3 rounds.. and if.... as they say the wild card (picked at random) is someone like the Greek or Laganna.. & got lucky they would win the 100k over someone like the Sarge, Kalitta, Troxel ..well you get my point... WHY should #8 be wild card...
Next year will they change this also to a shootout like the phony new points system ?
sld72382
10-24-2006, 03:56 PM
I thought the wild card was supposed to give someone a chance to race in the shootout.
And what would be so bad about someone like Lagana winning it? :rolleyes:
I thought the wild card was supposed to give someone a chance to race in the shootout.
And what would be so bad about someone like Lagana winning it? :rolleyes:
Nothing.. in fact I like Lagana & would LOVE to see him win..... but if he was 100 points behind you, & you were in 8th place .. & he got picked to race instead of you.... Would you be happy about that ?
NITROFAN
10-24-2006, 05:38 PM
Only problem with a 32 car field is when they do not have 32 cars !!!
What are they gonna have bye runs - THEY CANNOT MAKE IT A 32 car field!!
TheFuture
10-24-2006, 05:57 PM
Believe me, if they made it a 32 car field, alot more people would show up and alot of others would move up to the pro ranks knowing their chance to qualify just doubled
sld72382
10-24-2006, 06:26 PM
Only problem with a 32 car field is when they do not have 32 cars !!!
What are they gonna have bye runs - THEY CANNOT MAKE IT A 32 car field!!
You have a point there. The reason why the NHRA reduced the fields down to 16 cars is because of too many empty spots.
TheFuture
10-24-2006, 06:40 PM
well even if they dont make it a 32 car field, they should do something else. I remember a while back they were talking about some alternate thing but I dont know how it would work. They really should do something though
techrat_77
10-24-2006, 09:28 PM
It wasn't that many years ago that there WERE more than 32 cars showing up for nearly every event. I recall that scenario when Larry Nance and Tom Hammonds were both competing, but my memory may fail me. Even if there weren't enough, it would be a simple solution. 32 or more cars = a 32 car field, with no 4th round of qualifying. Less than 32 = 4 rounds of qualifying and a 16 car field.
sharx
10-24-2006, 10:14 PM
That is way to complicated for NHRA to pull off.:rolleyes: If they ran a 32 car field more would show up. I know more than one former Pro Stock racer that no longer does the "full circuit" because of the lack of a 32 car show. Plus I think A Saturday night Pro Stock Show would be awsome. This would give the PS cars increased exposure and maybe help some teams with sponsorship!
NotJamesBoos
10-24-2006, 10:34 PM
Why would elimins on Saturday night increase the butts in seats? Companies are not going to give money to more cars with the same amount of spectators. Even with the alky cars runnin Saturday nights noones watching.
Prestaged
10-25-2006, 12:04 AM
One scenario that has been offered up in the past is a 24-car field, with the #9-#24 cars going at it in round one on Saturday, and the first eight qualifiers getting a first round bye. That would leave 16 cars for Sunday. Not sure that is a feasible solution, but it might be worth a try.
Bob Korreck
10-25-2006, 02:53 AM
It wasn't that many years ago that there WERE more than 32 cars showing up for nearly every event. I recall that scenario when Larry Nance and Tom Hammonds were both competing, but my memory may fail me. Even if there weren't enough, it would be a simple solution. 32 or more cars = a 32 car field, with no 4th round of qualifying. Less than 32 = 4 rounds of qualifying and a 16 car field.
Hey Tech, you had it right the first time. A 32 car field. If 28 show up, it's 28. I don't think anything has to be changed except qualifying. Make it 3 runs. Period.
Bob Korreck
10-25-2006, 02:55 AM
Nothing.. in fact I like Lagana & would LOVE to see him win..... but if he was 100 points behind you, & you were in 8th place .. & he got picked to race instead of you.... Would you be happy about that ?
I agree Jpee. No freebies. Like Smith Barney, earn it.
Plain Vanilla
10-25-2006, 04:19 PM
It wasn't that many years ago that there WERE more than 32 cars showing up for nearly every event. I recall that scenario when Larry Nance and Tom Hammonds were both competing, but my memory may fail me. Even if there weren't enough, it would be a simple solution. 32 or more cars = a 32 car field, with no 4th round of qualifying. Less than 32 = 4 rounds of qualifying and a 16 car field.
Well there you go again.........trying to bring logic and common sense to the NHRA,:eek: square peg.............round hole:)
Pat McGill
10-25-2006, 07:28 PM
I'm still of the opinion that we should go with a 32 car field if there are that many entries and just drop the 4th round of qualifying. That would limit the frustration of all those folks that go out every week and come up a gnat's eyelash short of making the field.
Should NHRA change the name of the class to AA/PS then?
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