to bad.. G Snow..

[David]

sad deal ..

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=944639&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[Pat McGill]

Wow, that didn't take long to get around. I just hope he didn't ruin that kids life or other kids lives. Hopefully he has a real "good" time in jail!

I look for Spencer and the rest of the team to land on their feet.

[techrat_77]

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Why did they have to say "DRAG RACER" charged???

[damnyankee]

because that's what he is. he won funny car at the first race I ever went to at age 10. ahra grande american series race, new england dragway, august 1970. this is quite a surprise. maybe he can say he was doing research like townsend.

[Pat McGill]

this is quite a surprise.

Not really.

[all8]

maybe he can say he was doing research like townsend.
Difference is Townshend was looking online...Gene was doing the real deal.

[A Poole]

I have absolutely no use for child molestors=PERIOD.If he's guilty,they need to castrate him. My 10 month old grandaughter is laying on my bed asleep right now,if anybody did something like that to her,there would be a trial,mine,for killing the SOB.

[Pat McGill]

Hasn`t it been rumored for some time that Gene likes to hit from the other side of the plate?

I don't think they were rumors.

[Kingnitro]

A friend of mine was chatting with a crew member of a Famous A-Fuel team at Indy about this very subject. He even mentioned Gene by name, sounds like this has been known for some time. I'm just curious how this is just now coming out after 7 years!:confused:

[swcmaz]

This has been going on for years. I know I heard stories aboutit 10 years but couldn't confirm it so instead of speeding hearsay I let it drop,

From what they are saying on the news hes been arrested at least 3 times on sexaual mis-conduct.

Why wasn't he put away a long time ago? Oh yea, thts right MONEY.

swcmaz

[512 T/F]

Thanks for posting this and adding the link to show credibility. I saw a post on the mater last night but it was "moved" and I wasnt allowed to see it, something about not authorized?? Anyway thanks again for the reporting. On the subject at hand thats just not acceptable and if proven to be true he should get the MAX PUNISHMENT !

[turbovw]

It's truly a sad deal. It had been long rumoured that that was the case. Now that I have children of my own, it kinda hits a different way. Like Poole says, I will be in jail....

[gary4205]

Was always a Snow fan too, but found out a few years ago about his preference. That didn't diminish him in my eyes, but this ****ed sure does.

I have a cousin who was abused for a long time before it was discovered, and it took years to catch and try the guy. This is Texas and he got life without parole.

But the girl will have problems for the rest of her life.

You can't treat a child molester harsh enough.

I am sad to hear Gene is accused of this, and if true, it's only sad that he is too old to spend a lifetime in jail.

[speedPhreak]

it's sick and demented for a man to do that to a female. but to me it makes it 10 times worse knowing it was a male victim. it's something i can't even begin to comprehend, nor do i want to. lol! it's unfortunate that our legal system won't allow medical scientists to do research on the brain of a living sexual predator, perhaps some of the thousands and thousands of them who are incarcerated. it just goes to show our government doesn't take child molestation very seriously. sad but true! :mad:

[SandBlaster]

It hasn't been a secret that Snow was a homo. Young boys is a different story.

[Uncle Buck]

What a bummer

I don't know about you, but if I'm "involved" in a SIX YEAR "arrangement" or "relationship" - I'm "involving" myself somewhat voluntarily. Six years? Come on. If the alleged victim didn't immediately speak out or file charges, there's something fishy. I smell extorsion.

The kid was most likely willingly participating and enjoying the financial benefits of said "arrangement." A dissagreement took place, the gravy train stopped and the kid spilled the beans for revenge. Happens all the time.

The NHRA took a a bad PR hit here too. I hope that awful Nancy Grace on CNN doesn't get a hold of it. She's the worst.

I'm holding back on hanging the Snowman until all the details are revealed after the trial.

[speedPhreak]

The NHRA took a bad PR hit here too. I hope that awful Nancy Grace on CNN doesn't get a hold of it. She's the worst.
lmfao! ain't that the truth! her mouth should be registered as a dangerous weapon. :D

[SandBlaster]

Hey Speedfreak...Please change the color of your type, it's too hard to read.

Thanks

[superpro185]

i have an 8 yr old son. i have admired gene snow for many years. but my god if this is true what has this world come to. if anyone ever did that to my son i dont know if i could be responsible for what i would do. there is no excuse for that!!!!!!

[speedPhreak]

Hey Speedfreak...Please change the color of your type, it's too hard to read.
Thanks
sorry! will do. ;)

[Bob Korreck]

You guys may know a lot more about Gene than I do but as of right now he's not been found guilty.

I hope it's not true.

[Uncle Buck]

You guys may know a lot more about Gene than I do but as of right now he's not been found guilty.

I hope it's not true.

Bubba is exactly right. Modern media is all about sensaltionizing and ratings. How do you drive ratings up? Juicy and controversial inuendo. The media is always convicting people prior to the actual court case.

Did Barry Bonds do steroids? We don't really know the TRUTH.

Did Gene Snow molest this underage boy? We don't have any facts, only ALLEGATIONS.

Just because the DFW DA indicted someone on alleged charges, doesn't mean they're guilty of anything.

I also found it interesting that this news report chose to only show two lines from the indictment - that Gene Snow had porn tapes and porn magazines. Big deal. Those things are legal.

Sadly - sensationalized reporting on idictments is all too often construed as a guilty verdict.

[gary4205]

What a bummer

I don't know about you, but if I'm "involved" in a SIX YEAR "arrangement" or "relationship" - I'm "involving" myself somewhat voluntarily. Six years? Come on. If the alleged victim didn't immediately speak out or file charges, there's something fishy. I smell extorsion.

The kid was most likely willingly participating and enjoying the financial benefits of said "arrangement." A dissagreement took place, the gravy train stopped and the kid spilled the beans for revenge. Happens all the time.

The NHRA took a a bad PR hit here too. I hope that awful Nancy Grace on CNN doesn't get a hold of it. She's the worst.

I'm holding back on hanging the Snowman until all the details are revealed after the trial.


I don't want to turn this into a pee-ing contest, but you are way off. There is no way an 11 year old, male or female, can be in a "consenting" relationship. Period! Our country is slow to protect kids though. As I mentioned earlier, I have experience with this. My cousin was 8 and she was 12 before anyone found out. The guy fled and was hidden by family in a family friendly county for a few years. It took a major effort from a local officer and our county to catch him. Justice from there was swift and harsh. Life with NO parole. And this is a young guy!

No one knows why child molesters molest. Some are like other abusers, such as wife beaters, who do it because it was done to them. Others are just wired that way. Regardless, there is no cure. I know liberals want to rehabilitate them, but incarceration is the only option. Every one of these guys(and gals) reoffend. How many times do we hear a story of some kid that goes missing, only to find the body and later the offender, and then find out this is the forth or fifth time! There are only two options. Capitol punishment or life without possibility of parole.

As for Gene Snow, everyone seems to have known about him being gay. That is not a crime or even a big deal, but child molestation is! A child cannot give consent period! I don't care HOW one rationalizes it.

Gene is INNOCENT until proven guilty. Everyone deserves that. Gene was one of the great drivers of our sport. I only hope he gets a fair trial.

[dragnut888]

I guess I have been in the dark all these years. For some reason it is still hard to believe. Call me dumb but I never knew what was going on. I have liked Gene since way back but if this is true I'm totally blown away. It is not acceptable behavior and people should hang for these acts. I just wish it wasn't true and I wouldn't have read this post! Argh!:(

[Justin League]

I guess this just caught me by surprise. I had no idea Gene was gay. I mean, I dont care, more power to you but I had no idea and normally I can tell in the first few seconds I talk to someone. And I just talked to Gene this past Sunday at the Div 4 race at Houston. Oh well. I always thought of him as a good ole' boy but if he did this, then there needs to be justice. I still cant believe it.

[mrfab]

[QUOTE=Uncle Buck]What a bummer
The kid was most likely willingly participating and enjoying the financial benefits of said "arrangement." A dissagreement took place, the gravy train stopped and the kid spilled the beans for revenge. Happens all the time.





Are you KIDDING me? Are you saying that an 11 year old bvoy could possibly "willingly participate" an ANY kind of sexual situation? I sure hope that what you wrote and what you meant are different.

[Prestaged]

I had no idea Gene was gay. I mean, I dont care, more power to you but I had no idea and normally I can tell in the first few seconds I talk to someone.

Are you serious? Do you think if someone is gay they are automatically a child molestor? You think this post is about someone who is gay? And you are such a great "judge" of people that you can spot a gay in a few seconds? I can't believe the ignorance.

[Bob Korreck]

I guess this just caught me by surprise. I had no idea Gene was gay. I mean, I dont care, more power to you but I had no idea and normally I can tell in the first few seconds I talk to someone. And I just talked to Gene this past Sunday at the Div 4 race at Houston. Oh well. I always thought of him as a good ole' boy but if he did this, then there needs to be justice. I still cant believe it.

I think there is a big difference between being gay and a child molester.

[Justin League]

There is a big difference between being gay and being a child molester. I was just responding to the people who said they have known he was like that for years. I had no idea. I could care less if someone is gay or not, but I cant stand child molesters and if he did indeed do this, then he needs to rot in prison.

[techrat_77]

because that's what he is. he won funny car at the first race I ever went to at age 10. ahra grande american series race, new england dragway, august 1970. this is quite a surprise. maybe he can say he was doing research like townsend.

I realize Mr. Snow was a drag racer, but the point I was trying to make was why did it have to be part of the headline? Usually if the profession of the alleged offender is mentioned, it's part of the story not in the headline. If he had been a plumber, would that have been part of the headline? I'm not picking on your reply, I just don't like seeing our sport connected to such a heinous crime in the the headline. Like I said earlier.....AAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kb301]

What a despicable act! If he is found guilty he deserves everything he has coming to him, including the prison treatment.

[enraeh]

I had heard for years that he was gay, but a molester????????? **** that is some sad ****e. He was one of the first, if not the first,to run a short wheelbase TF and I think one of the first to run those little airplane wheels on the front end. If this charge is true what a sad end to a admirable career.

[Rooselk]

...As for Gene Snow, everyone seems to have known about him being gay. That is not a crime or even a big deal, but child molestation is! A child cannot give consent period! I don't care HOW one rationalizes it.

Gene is INNOCENT until proven guilty. Everyone deserves that. Gene was one of the great drivers of our sport. I only hope he gets a fair trial.

I couldn't agree more.

And as long as it involves consenting adults and not children, I could care less about a person's sexual preference.

[Kingnitro]

Gives a whole new meaning to the term Snowjob! :eek:

[Alan]

I don't mean to blame the alleged victim, but, like others have said "innocent until proven guilty".

I'd rather hope than condemn Mr. Snow the court may decide, that he is innocent. If gene is gay, well consenting adults do what they do, if Gene did do what is alleged. Castration or life in prison should be in his future.

Although I've never met Mr. Snow personally, I've been a fan since the early 90's, an NHRA hitter that would sometimes run IHRA. I'm not gay, but a gay man who employs male children often times does become suspect.

Now if Gene is guilty, he deserves what he gets. The Boy who has accused Gene (who is now seventeen) is proved to be lying, should face the same sentence that Gene is.

Like I said, Id rather hope for now rather than condemn. At least right now.

Later, I may be proved wrong.

[The_Leaker]

i wonder if this will make the dirt section of CP?

[Nitro1102]

If the charges are true, feel for everyone involved, including Snowman; regardless, the guy was as nice as anyone out there; very likeable, personable, and approachable. Sad day for all....

[all8]

I realize Mr. Snow was a drag racer, but the point I was trying to make was why did it have to be part of the headline? Usually if the profession of the alleged offender is mentioned, it's part of the story not in the headline. If he had been a plumber, would that have been part of the headline? I'm not picking on your reply, I just don't like seeing our sport connected to such a heinous crime in the the headline. Like I said earlier.....AAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Snow is somewhat of a famous individual...much more than a plumber or an everyday Joe. He is a drag racer, and if he had been a MLB or an NFL player, then I`m sure that would have been on the headline as well.

[512 T/F]

i wonder if this will make the dirt section of CP?
It sure didnt make it at nitromater.

[Pat McGill]

This news should be on all of the drag racing websites that would like to remain credible. It is way past the rumor stage, so someone needs to do some investigative reporting on the subject. Bobby?

[Jackee Allen]

It sure didnt make it at nitromater.

It's in the Lounge

[512 T/F]

It's in the Lounge
Thanx for the info Jackee, I dont usually go in the lounge, but tried to use link on the (moved) notice and the message popped up and said I didnt have permission to access the post , whatever no biggie. Sad situation!

[KNIGHTRIDER]

His sexual preferences have been know since the "SNOWMAN" funny car days.:o But this is the 1st time I ever heard about any molestation.

[Pat McGill]

This news should be on all of the drag racing websites that would like to remain credible. It is way past the rumor stage, so someone needs to do some investigative reporting on the subject. Bobby?

DRO has it in their Agent 1320 column. Anyone know if the Snowman and/or his car is present at the Motorplex? Who's doing the investigative reporting on this deal?

[Bob Korreck]

so someone needs to do some investigative reporting on the subject. Bobby?

Pat, what would they investigate? The allegation has been made but he's innocent until proven guilty.

[Kingnitro]

It sure didnt make it at nitromater.

I was going to say It's in the lounge, but Jackie beat me to it.

[Bobby Bennett]

DRO can run the piece if they like...that's their editorial choice. We had discussed the issue amongst our staff and decided because of the issue to leave it alone until (A) someone was willing to talk on the record and (B) until the issue is resolved in a court of law.

While I feel a crime like this is a despicable act...Gene is innocent until proven guilty.

[Simply Fuelish]

Thanks for posting this and adding the link to show credibility. I saw a post on the mater last night but it was "moved" and I wasnt allowed to see it, something about not authorized?? Anyway thanks again for the reporting. On the subject at hand thats just not acceptable and if proven to be true he should get the MAX PUNISHMENT !

TOO FUNNY !! The rotten "mater' pulled the story !

They spin XXXX over there like a news crew ! Hahahaaaa

Mater= Ministry of truth ! What a joke.

I heard stories of Gene plentyy of times

[damnyankee]

I personally feel like there would be a lot less child molestation if we as a society were more accepting of gays to begin with. I think a lot of these guys use children because they feel they can keep them quiet thru intimidation. I have some experience with this because my brother was a victim when he was 14 years old.
the guy was a neighbor. had a big fat cow for a wife you know he wasn't having sex with and i don't mean just fat, I mean a cow, adopted a boy to make things look good, was a jr high school shop teacher, and well known abuser for years. well maybe not that well known, or my parents would have never let us mow his lawn or shovel his snow for 5 bucks. he always had young boys doing yard work. He drove the police chief in my town to an early grave. none of the kids would ever testify. most of them including my brother hid in drugs(that he provided) and /or ran away.

I don't think punishment stops these guys.

the lag time between the start of this and now the report? give the kid a break. he's probably been in therapy for related problems and it came out. i'mm not saying gene's guilty, but if he is, it's not unusual for it to take a long time for a kid to be able to talk about it.

my brother ended up XXXXXX up from drugs and dead at 40 after years fighting schizophrenia. whether his problems were caused by all that **** or whether the weirdo just preyed on my brothers weakness we will never know.

he never tried anything with me. I wish he had, but guys like that are pretty good at figuring out who's vulnerable and who isn't .

[gary4205]

I personally feel like there would be a lot less child molestation if we as a society were more accepting of gays to begin with. I think a lot of these guys use children because they feel they can keep them quiet thru intimidation. I have some experience with this because my brother was a victim when he was 14 years old.
the guy was a neighbor. had a big fat cow for a wife you know he wasn't having sex with and i don't mean just fat, I mean a cow, adopted a boy to make things look good, was a jr high school shop teacher, and well known abuser for years. well maybe not that well known, or my parents would have never let us mow his lawn or shovel his snow for 5 bucks. he always had young boys doing yard work. He drove the police chief in my town to an early grave. none of the kids would ever testify. most of them including my brother hid in drugs(that he provided) and /or ran away.

I don't think punishment stops these guys.

the lag time between the start of this and now the report? give the kid a break. he's probably been in therapy for related problems and it came out. i'mm not saying gene's guilty, but if he is, it's not unusual for it to take a long time for a kid to be able to talk about it.

my brother ended up ****ed up from drugs and dead at 40 after years fighting schizophrenia. whether his problems were caused by all that **** or whether the weirdo just preyed on my brothers weakness we will never know.

he never tried anything with me. I wish he had, but guys like that are pretty good at figuring out who's vulnerable and who isn't .


First let me say I am very sorry. Absolutely no one deserves to be molested like this. Second: Bobby, couldn't agree more, Gene is innocent until proved guilty.

The gay thing doesn't mean anything. While our society may not totally understand gays, I think we have enough sense to know they aren't all preditors. If being gay was the problem, how does one count for all of the degenerates that molest little girls? And for that matter, what's the deal with all of the young hot teachers and their students?

Am am no expert, but I figure molesters are hard wired that way, just like we are hard wired to be heterosexual and some people are hard wired to be gay.

You can't "cure" a molester, just like you can't "cure" a rapest. Unfortunately there are only two real solutions, life without parole, or capital punishment. Sorry but that's how it is!

Man, your brother was given a "life without parole" sentence the day that he was victimized. So was my cousin. That's why we should never feel the least bit sorry for a child molester, period.

I think I am like most people, we want Gene to be innocent. I was watchin' match him race in the early '70s. Was always a big fan.

[The_Leaker]

The acceptance of a certian life style is no way to cope with a epidemic

Does anyone read the bible or ....


Theres gonna be alot of firewood in hell for a select few who live there lives a certian way...

[Pat McGill]

Pat, what would they investigate? The allegation has been made but he's innocent until proven guilty.

Will Gene continue to race until the trial? Is the car at the Motorplex? What is Massey going to do? Have there been any other allegations in the past?

[Bob Korreck]

Will Gene continue to race until the trial? Is the car at the Motorplex? What is Massey going to do? Have there been any other allegations in the past?

Good questions Pat. I misunderstood your post and thought you wanted the current allegations investigated.

If I were Gene I would keep a low profile and stay away from any event.

[Bob Korreck]

The acceptance of a certian life style is no way to cope with a epidemic

Does anyone read the bible or ....


Theres gonna be alot of firewood in hell for a select few who live there lives a certian way...

I know what you're saying Leaker and yes I read my bible. I also know we are not to judge anyone. Heaven or hell is not our decision.

[Pat McGill]

Good questions Pat. I misunderstood your post and thought you wanted the current allegations investigated.

If I were Gene I would keep a low profile and stay away from any event.

Earlier this year, one alleged child molester was racing the week after being arrested. Hell, he won a different national event a week later.

[David]

Spencer Massey and the car are at the Plex this weekend... this deal about Snow is not new news, been 'under the table' for years... just the first time I guess it has hit the media... as I say.. real sad ..

[Nater99]

Spencer Massey and the car are at the Plex this weekend... this deal about Snow is not new news, been 'under the table' for years... just the first time I guess it has hit the media... as I say.. real sad ..

First of all, I truly hope he didn't do it. But, I always hate when I hear that this kind of stuff has be known about for years and nothing was done about it. That said, I'm guilty of suspecting someone of that type of thing and never saying anything. I never had anything solid, but it turned out I was right. I dont' know, it just bugs me.

[Gary Jacobson]

there is two sides to every story and then the truth

[Bob Korreck]

Earlier this year, one alleged child molester was racing the week after being arrested. Hell, he won a different national event a week later.

If it were me, regardless of guilt or innocence I would want to crawl into a hole and stay there until this was resolved.

I had to quit going to football games. Every time they got in a huddle I thought they were talking about me. :D :D

[Jackee Allen]

I know what you're saying Leaker and yes I read my bible. I also know we are not to judge anyone. Heaven or hell is not our decision.

"Heaven or hell is not our decision"... What translation are you reading? It certainly is our decision.

[Bob Korreck]

"Heaven or hell is not our decision"... What translation are you reading? It certainly is our decision.

Put it back in context. You must be a Chubby Checker fan. The twist. Get it?

"I also know we are not to judge anyone. Heaven or hell is not our decision."

I also know where you weren't Thanksgiving night.

You've heard the ol expression that if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls--t. You're just too funny. :D

[Becker5280]

Hey ya all new here...Sorry this is the first post I reply to, but I feel like i should say something!:) Not that it is worthy!

I want to call out Uncle Buck and Gary for both being on the money here, even if they seem to disagree a little bit

Innocent until proven guilty is absolutly correct

I think the point was trying to be made that a lot of times in 'Hollywood' scandels, there are pay offs to keep this under the sheets, (pun hopefully not intended). IHRA/NHRA is not Hollywood, despite the recent change of point allowances. But there could be a consideration to the fact that maybe there is a reason this has not shown up for years.

Sexual Oreintation aside, if this is in fact fact (yeah, how else to put it)...Then it is a big hit to the sport of drag racing and to a vetran of the sport.

Extoration is a possibilty, I refust to place blame until the facts come out. For those of you with daughters, sons, neices, nephews whatever..I understand your anger and I am with you. We need to let the facts come out first though and then we can make judgement. AS a country we are found guilty by a jury of our peers, which makes me want to think of this man as nothing less then a freak. It takes everything I have to hold judgement until the facts come out, but honestly, we owe it to this man.

Thanks for listenting if you made it this far! I look forward to many more happy conversations about this sport we all love!

[Bob Korreck]

Hey ya all new here...Sorry this is the first post I reply to, but I feel like i should say something!:) Not that it is worthy!

I want to call out Uncle Buck and Gary for both being on the money here, even if they seem to disagree a little bit

Innocent until proven guilty is absolutly correct

I think the point was trying to be made that a lot of times in 'Hollywood' scandels, there are pay offs to keep this under the sheets, (pun hopefully not intended). IHRA/NHRA is not Hollywood, despite the recent change of point allowances. But there could be a consideration to the fact that maybe there is a reason this has not shown up for years.

Sexual Oreintation aside, if this is in fact fact (yeah, how else to put it)...Then it is a big hit to the sport of drag racing and to a vetran of the sport.

Extoration is a possibilty, I refust to place blame until the facts come out. For those of you with daughters, sons, neices, nephews whatever..I understand your anger and I am with you. We need to let the facts come out first though and then we can make judgement. AS a country we are found guilty by a jury of our peers, which makes me want to think of this man as nothing less then a freak. It takes everything I have to hold judgement until the facts come out, but honestly, we owe it to this man.

Thanks for listenting if you made it this far! I look forward to many more happy conversations about this sport we all love!

I think we're all on the same page Becker. I agree it's very hard to withold judgement but that's the only way our system can work.

[Not THAT Guy]

The acceptance of a certian life style is no way to cope with a epidemic

Does anyone read the bible or ....


Theres gonna be alot of firewood in hell for a select few who live there lives a certian way...

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

[gary4205]

As much as I like Marty Reid, I wanted to throttle him last night. He mentioned, in a somber tone, that he had some bad news, then, as the ESPN cameras panned to the Texas flag and stayed there, went on to talk about Snow.

It reminded me how Marty and Dunn wouldn't shut up about Whitt and Capps' dust up. I know they felt they needed to say something, but did they HAVE to point the camera at our flag? My God that pizzed me off!

You'd think that since NHRA pays to be on ESPN, they'd have more control over the show.:eek:

[fuelfan]

I felt that their mentioning of the incident was unnecessary. Some may disagree.

[Jackee Allen]

Put it back in context. You must be a Chubby Checker fan. The twist. Get it?

"I also know we are not to judge anyone. Heaven or hell is not our decision."

I also know where you weren't Thanksgiving night.

You've heard the ol expression that if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls--t. You're just too funny. :D

No context needed Bub. It's a direct quote from you.

I was in Oakland, NJ on Thanksgiving night.

I'll leave the brilliance and bulls--t to you schweetie. You're so good at it. :D :) :p

Oh, and yeah, I bought a few Chubby Checker records back in the day.

[KNIGHTRIDER]

I felt that their mentioning of the incident was unnecessary. Some may disagree.
Yea but, seeing as how whit's not around now:( and they can't get force to get into anything bad. They have to have something to show that THEY are on top of everything.:rolleyes:

[Jackee Allen]

Yea but, seeing as how whit's not around now:( and they can't get force to get into anything bad. They have to have something to show that THEY are on top of everything.:rolleyes:

I guess that's show biz today. :confused:

[enraeh]

You'd think that since NHRA pays to be on ESPN, they'd have more control over the show.:eek:

I'm from Texas too, back in the day, and that frame was insulting(although not many people would have gotten the message)....now I'm from Cali/LA/HollyWeird and I can tell you without a doubt the writers and producers of any TV presentation will put in anything they think they need to, in order to pre-empt charges of bias, no matter who or what is smeared.

[Crankshaft]

Bubba has a good point, Jackee does too.

It looks like Bubba is referring to: We don't have a choice to judge other people and send them to heaven or hell. At least not until after the tribulation.

Jackee refers to the fact that God gives US a choice for everything: the choices we make for our actions (weather we accept Jesus and continue sinning). Those choices determine where we'll end up.

Sexual orientation? I used to be tolerant. My best man in my wedding is batting from the wrong side of the plate. Since then, I've read the Bible, and it explicitly says men will go with men, women will lie with women, God finds it despicable, and those people will be turned over to a reprobate mind, AND God will turn His back on them.

It also says we're supposed to hate the sin, but love the sinner, and pray for them to stop. Not hate them.

How's THAT for an entrance (first post)? Sorry to hijack the thread, but seems like it already started going in this direction.

As far as Snow? Innocent until proven guilty. It could be an extortion plan. Happens a lot to wealthy people and you have to be careful about the situations you put yourself in. As far as the boy being a willing participant? It doesn't mean the boy was ever touched by Snow, but he could've been coached by his parents to say it really happened when it didn't. If proven guilty and Snow doesn't repent, he's got a one way ticket to eternal suffering.

[fuelfan]

With all due respect, I am not sure this is the proper place for keyboard preaching, I am a Christian but I for one would prefer to come here for drag racing conversation.

[Crankshaft]

With all due respect, I am not sure this is the proper place for keyboard preaching, I am a Christian but I for one would prefer to come here for drag racing conversation.


yeah, that's the first time I've ever done that. seemed like they were going in that direction and needed some clarification. Didn't want to see people arguing for no reason.
I don't usually post in off-topic sections.

thanks,

[Bob Korreck]

yeah, that's the first time I've ever done that. seemed like they were going in that direction and needed some clarification. Didn't want to see people arguing for no reason.
I don't usually post in off-topic sections.

thanks,

The acceptance of a certian life style is no way to cope with a epidemic

Does anyone read the bible or ....


Theres gonna be alot of firewood in hell for a select few who live there lives a certian way...

Crankshaft, this was a topic of conversation in this thread. And you are correct about what I posted. That other guy took a few of my words and twisted them to mean something else.

Fuelfan, I'll apologize if you think this is out of line. But one thing I like about this place is that a topic will result in conversation and it may end up going down a different path. And no one seems to get upset and scream 'hijack'.

[Bob Korreck]

BTW Crankshaft, welcome. :)

[fuelfan]

I'm not upset, no problem

[Bob Korreck]

I'm not upset, no problem

Thanks Fuelfan..