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billyshope 05-18-2018 09:50 AM

Is this a trick question?
 
You might consider this a trick question, but, actually, I'm just nudging you outside the box. You've seen at least a zillion ladder bar cars. Okay, here's the question: Have you ever seen a ladder bar car with only one ladder?

billyshope 05-19-2018 05:53 AM

Millions of 'em!
 
OK, you guys are either pulling my leg or you don't want to take the time to reply. Of course you've seen cars with a single ladder bar! Ford and Chevy made millions of them. These were the old "torque tube drive" cars. The "torque tube" was a ladder bar. Yeah, it contained the driveshaft, but picture one of those old cars with an open driveshaft and the "tube" off to one side and pivoting from the chassis instead of the back of the transmission. It then becomes recognizable as a ladder bar car, a ladder bar car with only one ladder. But, look at this as more than a trick question. The modern ladder car actually needs only one ladder. Ford prevented rotation about the Z axis with a Panhard; Chevy did it with leaf springs. A modern ladder bar car would probably use a Panhard. Of course, it comes down to a choice, but, as a follower of the KISS principle, I would consider a single ladder the logical choice.

mgty3whlr 05-19-2018 06:15 AM

The Camaro or F bodies had a stamped steel piece that connected the transmission to the rear. It ran parallel to the driveshaft. Is that what you are talking about as a ladder bar?

billyshope 05-19-2018 06:40 AM

Not exactly
 
No, there have been no production ladders since the torque tube drive.

HEMI_guy 05-22-2018 01:44 PM

There's been plenty of 3 link cars. I know of a 37 Chevy T/S car with one that has an airbag the top of the wishbone. Canon had great success with his Rude Stude with a 3 link.

billyshope 05-22-2018 02:24 PM

More than a few
 
Considering all the cars on the road, the 3llink has been around longer than the 4link. However, I don't believe very many realized how it could be used to cancel the unloading of the right rear on acceleration. An exception, of course, is Jaguar's C-Type.

HEMI_guy 05-25-2018 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyshope (Post 211414)
Considering all the cars on the road, the 3llink has been around longer than the 4link. However, I don't believe very many realized how it could be used to cancel the unloading of the right rear on acceleration. An exception, of course, is Jaguar's C-Type.

You can still run an anti-roll/sway bar with a 3 link just the same as wit a 4 link.

Also, my friend X braced his bottom 4 link bars togther on his heavy T/S - Q/16 car and it works like a dream. It has an anti-roll / sway bar in it too.

billyshope 05-28-2018 04:47 PM

You're absolutely correct. However, if you use the 3link correctly, you don't need the ARB. That which is important is that you have equal rear tire loading all the way down the strip.


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