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Old 02-08-2018
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They need to give them till Indy and if things don't improve, make an announcement the following Tuesday that P/S will not be on the 2020 schedule and events in 2019 with fewer than 14 entries will be contested as 8 car fields.
That would work.
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That would work.
Hopefully that would force them to start considering ideas that would really work to save the class.
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I'm not sure what they're called but Watson also builds factory roadrace cars for Ford as well as the CJ's. Interestingly enough, their shop is less than 5 miles from Team Z (right around the corner from Mike Moran's shop) and no more than 10 miles Holbrook's shop. All in the Detroit metro area.
Watson is building 05-14 S197 Mustangs for the NASA American Iron Series, a grassroots spec category. They build a nice piece, and it make more sense to buy theirs than build your own. This is the equivalent of Stock Eliminator racing.

I don't know who builds the FP350S. It's the road race version of a Cobra Jet in my opinion. https://performanceparts.ford.com/FP350S/

While still production based, the GT4 kicks it up a few notches and is built by Multimatic. In the IMSA Grand Sport class, these cars are the "Pro Stock" of road racing, except they actually look like their street counterparts. Mustang & Camaro compete against the European heavies... https://performanceparts.ford.com/GT4/

Back to Factory Stock Showdown.....Watson, his teammate Skinner, Turk, Barton, Tasca, Libersher, and others also race with NMCA. Kind of reminiscent of the days when Pro Stock drivers would compete with multiple sanctioning bodies...
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why only 8 cars ?? ..... seems to me if your interested in growing the class, let as many cars race as possible!. if time is an issue, than substitute the last qualifying session with first round of eliminations with 16 or 32 cars
All 7 of the Factory Stock Showdown races have 16 car fields with Rd. 1 of eliminations on Sat. afternoon, and the final 3 rounds on Sunday. Last year only Indy had a 16 car field; but with the popularity of the class, the NHRA expanded the field to 16 cars for all of the events this year.
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Old 02-28-2018
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For those of you who may not know who this>

FSS Charles Watson Grosse Ile MI '16 Mustang FORD 302 WATSON RACING

is..... he owns the company that builds the Cobra Jets for Ford.


http://www.watsonracing.com/

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Wow, Interesting!


I knew they were in very close proximity to each other, but I just read that Watson Racing is located no further than 2,000 feet from the starting line of the now defunct Detroit Dragway which hosted the 1959 US Nationals.
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Factory Stock Showdown: 33
Pro Mod: 34

Pro Stock: 16
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Old 03-10-2018
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Factory Stock Showdown: 33
Pro Mod: 34

Pro Stock: 16
number of races per year :

Factory Stock Showdown: 8

Pro Mod: 12

Pro Stock: 24
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number of races per year :

Factory Stock Showdown: 8

Pro Mod: 12

Pro Stock: 24
Number of races people actually care about.

Factory Stock Showdown: 8

Pro Mod: 12

Pro Stock: 0
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number of races per year :

Factory Stock Showdown: 8

Pro Mod: 12

Pro Stock: 24
Ah.. but NHRA wanted Pro Stock to cut back races. They just don't have the ah... whatever... to take the chance of another P/S Truck lawsuit. So they will appease the team owners a while longer while not increasing the P/S purse, marketing or TV exposure.

In the meantime NHRA has been making Pro Mod and FS/XX pay to play. Why would they stop that when there is money to be made?

I will be very surprised if FS/XX isn't at least 12 races in two more years and the full tour in six years (or less). The one issue that will screw this up is if NHRA doesn't do a decent job of keeping the playing field level. They can't go all Chevy or Harley as the other manufactures will probably pull the plug quickly on their NHRA participation and promote their product elsewhere.

In the meantime, do the current Pro Stock team owners really want to field multiple teams as their "pay to play"? Do they want to field multiple brands in an attempt to get more of the common fans back? Or will those common fans prefer the FS/XX cars that look like their car in the parking lot.

The next few years will be interesting.
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Old 03-11-2018
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Ah.. but NHRA wanted Pro Stock to cut back races. They just don't have the ah... whatever... to take the chance of another P/S Truck lawsuit. So they will appease the team owners a while longer while not increasing the P/S purse, marketing or TV exposure.

In the meantime NHRA has been making Pro Mod and FS/XX pay to play. Why would they stop that when there is money to be made?

I will be very surprised if FS/XX isn't at least 12 races in two more years and the full tour in six years (or less). The one issue that will screw this up is if NHRA doesn't do a decent job of keeping the playing field level. They can't go all Chevy or Harley as the other manufactures will probably pull the plug quickly on their NHRA participation and promote their product elsewhere.

In the meantime, do the current Pro Stock team owners really want to field multiple teams as their "pay to play"? Do they want to field multiple brands in an attempt to get more of the common fans back? Or will those common fans prefer the FS/XX cars that look like their car in the parking lot.

The next few years will be interesting.
Excellent post!
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