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Old 08-25-2015
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Default Time for INDYCAR to embrace Shumacher Canopy

After seeing video of Justin Wilsons accident, would Shumacher canopy prevent Wilsons head injury?
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Old 08-25-2015
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I think with the right design it would help these drivers 100%.

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Old 08-26-2015
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Totally, and if it looked like this, even better.

RIP Justin Wilson
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Kind of an odd question when it is only "embraced" by about 1/3 of the NHRA top fuel cars - the number is a lot smaller when your talking team owners.
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I think with the right design it would these drivers 100%.
The only thing that will ever protect drivers 100% is not driving.

This was a very unfortunate and sad situation and a canopy very well may have protected JW enough to prevent his death.

But drivers always have and will continue to be killed in their race cars.

Of course lessons should be continued to be learned and improvements made.

But a goal of 100% safety is not achievable and, in my opinion, striving for it will only cripple motorsports.
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But a goal of 100% safety is not achievable and, in my opinion, striving for it will only cripple motorsports.
They already got those rear wheel protectors in place and I can see the canopy follow next year. F1 still decides to take their $100M+ team budgets, $100M+ development technology and not change a thing. Baseball is now getting scruitiny with several fans getting hit in the face by foul balls lately and extended netting is now being discussed all the way to the foul pole with owners objecting.


When you watch on Sunday, you only see 4 of the 16 dragsters. Maybe 5 if the Greek gets in and that's an old Spencer car.

How many years have they been out now? I remember early on Tony was barking at every top end interview trying to get people to use them. He's even given up on that strategy. I love 'em and want to see more aero packages and improving those old mud flaps, but everybody is getting new pipe and it's evident now that the TF majority does not want them at all. You can't cry weight but DSR car's performances counters that theory.

If DSR decides to go without them next year, they will virtually be extinct like the 80's all over again with by chance an old car with one gets qualified. Brit will be the only one who commits to it and she almost didn't even start the season without Monster.

INDY is the best sport since many cars follow each other rather than side-by-side with just one.
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Nitro you can see burn and requires a source to keep it burning. Methanol burns invisible in the bright sun and burns itself out without a constant ignition source.

Gotta admit though, that McLaren car looks pretty sweet and it's got to cut through the air better than an open cockpit.
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I think with the right design it would these drivers 100%.
Totally agree!
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The only thing that will ever protect drivers 100% is not driving.

This was a very unfortunate and sad situation and a canopy very well may have protected JW enough to prevent his death.

But drivers always have and will continue to be killed in their race cars.

Of course lessons should be continued to be learned and improvements made.

But a goal of 100% safety is not achievable and, in my opinion, striving for it will only cripple motorsports.
What I meant was it would help 100% meaning there is no downside to having the canopy on these cars. Not that it would "guarantee" any more incidents occurring. There are no guarantees but you sure as heck can lower the odds.
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Kind of an odd question when it is only "embraced" by about 1/3 of the NHRA top fuel cars - the number is a lot smaller when your talking team owners.
The safety innovation that came from Darrel Russell's tragedy was embraced 100% by NHRA and all teams. To my knowledge, that was a very rare head injury for our sport and we acted immediately. The reason for the canopy in drag racing seems to be based on a different idea so it may not quite compare apples to apples with this. Although I wish more teams would use it. The Indy and F1 cars have seen this injury before and its puzzling that they haven't acted on a solution.
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