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Default "Pro Stock racing in the NHRA is just a very tough sell."

....that's Erica Enders in a phone interview with the broadcast crew during the Q2 feed last night (and in the link below).

So what's the problem with this class today, where an accomplished driver like her (and more so WJ Racing) sits out, and 16 car (and now short) fields are the norm? Is this, as McGill asked in another thread, "... a sign of the demise of PS or just a bump in the road?"

Some (both with intimate knowledge & without) have pointed out the following in print & in previous discussions......

Too much $$$ for up & comers & "old pros" to run a full schedule competitively & the proliferation of mega bucks owner/drivers?

The "cookie cutter" look of the cars & the perception of "old tech" under the hood?

"Second class" status by the NHRA?

Little factory support of the class (with the exception of Chrysler Corp)?

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Just like with fuel racing, they are self inflicted wounds. Somehow they are running 1 inch lift cams and paying 300.00 for a valve spring, while staying 25 years behind the manufacturer world of fuel injection. Honda and Toyota pays hundreds of millions of dollars out to Indy car and formula one teams because sometimes, what they find ends up being put on production cars, mainly suspension. As long as the manufacturers have little use for anything learnt on the drag strip, its finding the rich guy to pay for play.

you want to fix pro stock its pretty simple, get the cars looking and using parts like you can buy on monday after the race.
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When Dave Connolly is sitting out that should tell ya. One of the best drivers cant't get a gig in PS. Move WJ and let Dave take the wheel
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Just like with fuel racing, they are self inflicted wounds. Somehow they are running 1 inch lift cams and paying 300.00 for a valve spring, while staying 25 years behind the manufacturer world of fuel injection. Honda and Toyota pays hundreds of millions of dollars out to Indy car and formula one teams because sometimes, what they find ends up being put on production cars, mainly suspension. As long as the manufacturers have little use for anything learnt on the drag strip, its finding the rich guy to pay for play.

you want to fix pro stock its pretty simple, get the cars looking and using parts like you can buy on monday after the race.


Knowing several guys involved in F1 nd Indy cars... i can say this from what they have said... those two series have NOTHING to do with production cars tech... those two series are ONLY for Mfgrs EGO purposes....

i personaly dont believe taking the PS guys to EFI would help thing either...UNLESS.. the NHRA set the parimiters to which they could be set and not allow for the teams to change it.. allowing EFI and unlimited tune-ups with it would add a new crew member making a HUGE paycheck to do the tuning..... i have afriend in CUP right now who makes over $250k a year and all he does is run test programs on the EFI set ups for different tracks and conditions....
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Getting any company to put in a large amount of money is hard no matter what class it is. Some of these teams that will sit out a race because of lack of sponsor funding is real BS. They have the money to run some if not all the races on their own dollar but chose not to. If I was a company looking to put money into a team I would want to do it with someone that has the passion to run their car and do it on their own dollar if they had to. IMO that shows that they love what they do and that it is not just a business to them.
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As with the rise of popularity/car counts and lower costs of the nostalgia fuel classes within the last few years, I think this sets the stage for nostalgia PS to also rise in popularity and car counts.
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Slug... i agree but.. its also a regional thing... nostalgia fuel cars realy arent popular in the south east...but Pro Mods are.... not many places outside the SE that are into the PM's
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Too much $$$ for up & comers & "old pros" to run a full schedule competitively & the proliferation of mega bucks owner/drivers?
There ya go.... The "HAVE'S" have out spent themselves into this position.....
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There ya go.... The "HAVE'S" have out spent themselves into this position.....
That seems to be what a multiple year class champ believes.....

HRM] Why is this class so competitive? Are the rules so restrictive that everyone is massaging the same basic parts?

WJ] "Some of the manufacturers have referred to the Pro Stock category as the country-club set of racing because there’s probably more money being spent on Pro Stock than the fuel classes combined......."


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Look what costs are doing to Pro Mod!
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