Final Points Without a Countdown

Final Points Without a Countdown

de31168de31168 Senior Member
edited October 2018 in NHRA
For those who hate the countdown, here is how your season turned out.
TOP FUEL
(Position without countdown - position WITH countdown)
1 - 1 Antron Brown 1858
2 - 3 Spencer Massey 1803
3 - 2 Tony Schumacher 1799
4 - 9 Steve Torrence 1411
5 - 4 Shawn Langdon 1376
6 - 7 Morgan Lucas 1300
7 - 6 Doug Kalitta 1296
8 - 5 Brandon Bernstein 1279
9 - 10 Dave Grubnic 1091
10 - 8 Bob Vandergriff 1032
11. Khalid alBalooshi 1,031
12. Clay Millican 854
13. Terry McMillen 728
14. Cory McClenathan 351
15. Hillary Will 316

FUNNY CAR
1 - 2 Ron Capps 1766
2 - 1 Jack Beckman 1653
3 - 3 Mike Neff 1537
4 - 7 Robert Hight 1452
5 - 6 Johnny Gray 1380
6 - 4 Cruz Pedregon 1292
7 - 5 Courtney Force 1291
8 - 11 Matt Hagan 1216
9 - 9 John Force 1136
10 - 8 Tim Wilkerson 1122
11 - 10 Jeff Arend 1095
12 Bob Tasca III 1051
13 Alexis DeJoria 796
14 Tony Pedregon 726
15 Jim Head 533

PRO STOCK
1 - 1 Allen Johnson 2138
2 - 2 Jason Line 1823
3 - 4 Erica Enders 1619
4 - 5 Greg Anderson 1604
5 - 3 Vincent Nobile 1595
6 - 6 Mike Edwards 1438
7 - 7 V. Gaines 980
8 - 8 Ron Krisher 947
9 - 9 Jeg Coughlin 906
10 - 10 Larry Morgan 859
11. Shane Gray 819
12. Rodger Brogdon 689
13. Ronnie Humphrey 677
14. Warren Johnson 668
15. Kurt Johnson 636

PRO STOCK MOTORCYCLE
1 - 1 Eddie Krawiec 1703
2 - 2 Andrew Hines 1596
3 - 3 Hector Arana Jr 1270
4 - 4 Hector Arana 1105
5 - 5 Karen Stoffer 893
6 - 6 Matt Smith 780
7 - 7 Scotty Pollacheck 771
8 - 8 Michael Ray 748
9 - 9 LE Tonglet 746
10 - 10 Shawn Gann 648
11. John Hall 607
12. Steve Johnson 552
13. Chip Ellis 468
14. Mike Berry 383
15. Michael Phillips 371
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Comments

  • oliveroliver Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    NOT a lover of the current points scheme but very ok with the way F/C ended
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    Aside from Vincent leapfrogging Erica and Greg, none of the pro stock car or motorcycle points would have changed. Interesting to note Matt Hagan could have made it up to 8th after his dismal first half. Aside from that the nitro classes would have had a lot of changes. Steve Torrence from 4th to 9th was the biggest loser.
  • slugbelchslugbelch Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    interesting.

    Is there someplace where the old points were calculated for the previous countdown years?
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    Not that I know of. With about three hours and simple math it could be done. Maybe someday when I'm bored I'll just go on ahead and do that.
  • HEMI_guyHEMI_guy Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    Thanks for doing this de! Very nice work!
  • anotheridiotanotheridiot Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    Capps would have won the title if he got to keep his car.

    Jack would have run away with it if he got to keep his car.
  • WillyWilly Administrator
    edited November 2012
    slugbelch wrote: »
    interesting.

    Is there someplace where the old points were calculated for the previous countdown years?

    Back in 2007, the first year of the Countdown, some guy did a comparision between the new points system and the previous during the course of that portion of the season. Here's the basic standings minus the points. Season long final points position in parenthesis.......

    BTW...he was not inclined to take that "project" on again.....

    TF
    1. Schumacher (3)
    2. Fuller (1)
    3. Bernstein (4)
    4. Dixon (2)
    5. Vandergriff (6)
    6. Herbert (8)
    7. Todd (5)
    8. Bazemore (12)
    9.. Troxel (7)
    10. D. Kalitta (9)
    11. Grubnic (10)
    12. McClenathan (11)
    13. Will (13)
    14. Millican (14)
    15. Lucas (15)

    FC
    1. T. Pedregon (3)
    2. Hight (1)
    3. Scelzi (6)
    4. Capps (2)
    5. Beckman (4)
    6. Ashley (5)
    7. J. Force (7)
    8. Head (9)
    9. Worsham (8)
    10. A. Force(10)
    11. Arend (11)
    12. C. Pedregon (12)
    13. T. Johnson (13)
    14. K. Bernstein (14)
    15. Wilkerson (15)

    PS
    1. Coughlin (3)
    2. Anderson (1)
    3. Connolly (2)
    4. A. Johnson (4)
    5. Line (5)
    6. K. Johnson (6)
    7. Morgan (9)
    8. W.Johnson (10)
    9. Stevens (7)
    10. Gaines (8)
    11. Yates (11)
    12. Naylor (12)
    13. Stanfield (13)
    14. Koretsky (14)
    15. Humphries (15)

    PSM
    1. Smith (1)
    2. Hines (2)
    3 Ellis (4)
    4 Llewellyn (5)
    5 Sampey (3)
    6 Treble (6)
    7 Krawiec (8)
    8 Stoffer (7)
    9. S. Johnson (9)
    10. Brown (10)
    11. Rivas (11)
    12. Guidera (12)
    13. Arana (13)
    14. Scali (14)
    15. Phillips (15)
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    From what I remember from Funny Car, Wilkerson would have won in 08 instead of Cruz, Hight should have won 07 instead of Tony P, but then Tony P should have won in 09 instead of Hight.
    Heres 2011:
    (Position without countdown - position WITH countdown)
    TOP FUEL
    1 - 1 Del Worsham 1949
    2 - 3 Antron Brown 1784
    3 - 2 Spencer Massey 1731
    4 - 4 Larry Dixon 1671
    5 - 5 Tony Schumacher 1604
    6 - 6 Brandon Bernstein 1176
    7 - 8 Doug Kalitta 1026
    8 - 11 Bob Vandergriff 952
    9 - 9 Shawn Langdon 913
    10 - 7 David Grubnic 888
    11 - 10 Morgan Lucas 832
    12. Terry McMillen 717
    13. Rod Fuller 454
    14. Steve Torrence 343
    15. Troy Buff 329

    FUNNY CAR
    1 - 5 Mike Neff 1627
    2 - 1 Matt Hagan 1509
    3 - 2 Jack Beckman 1470
    4 - 4 Robert Hight 1453
    5 - 3 Cruz Pedregon 1422
    6 - 6 Ron Capps 1356
    7 - 11 Johnny Gray 1236
    8 - 7 Bob Tasca III 1134
    9 - 8 Jeff Arend 1105
    10 - 9 John Force 1093
    11 - 10 Tim Wilkerson 1014
    12. Tony Pedregon 783
    13. Paul Lee 650
    14. Jim Head 640
    15. Melanie Troxel 475

    PRO STOCK
    1 - 1 Jason Line 1881
    2 - 3 Greg Anderson 1685
    3 - 2 Mike Edwards 1616
    4 - 4 Allen Johnson 1372
    5 - 5 Vincent Noblie 1350
    6 - 6 Erica Enders 1340
    7 - 8 Rodger Brogdon 1276
    8 - 7 Greg Stanfield 1253
    9 - 11 Ronnie Humphrey 974
    10 - 12 Kurt Johnson 940
    11 - 9 Shane Gray 907
    12 - 13 Larry Morgan 862
    13 - 10 Ron Krisher 857
    14 V. Gaines 767
    15 Warren Johnson 630

    PRO STOCK MOTORCYCLE
    1 - 1 Eddie Krawiec 1370
    2 - 2 Hector Arana Jr 1130
    3 - 3 Andrew Hines 1075
    4 - 7 LE Tonglet 1015
    5 - 6 Karen Stoffer 1011
    6 - 4 Matt Smith 984
    7 - 5 Hector Arana 923
    8 - 8 Jerry Savoie 854
    9 - 9 Michael Phillips 779
    10 - 10 Jim Underdahl 708
    11. Angie Smith 595
    12. Chip Ellis 579
    13. Steve Johnson 573
    14. Shawn Gann 472
    15. Mike Berry 463
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    2010
    (Position without countdown - position WITH countdown)
    TOP FUEL
    1 - 1 Larry Dixon 2213
    2 - 2 Tony Schumacher 1858
    3 - 3 Cory McClenathan 1830
    4 - 4 Antron Brown 1590
    5 - 6 Doug Kalitta 1554
    6 - 7 Brandon Bernstein 1435
    7 - 5 Shawn Langdon 1216
    8 - 10 Morgan Lucas 990
    9 - 8 Steve Torrence 983
    10 - 9 Dave Grubnic 970
    11 Terry McMillen 768
    12 Troy Buff 460
    13 Bob Vandergriff
    14 Pat Dakin 354
    15 Terry Haddock 331

    FUNNY CAR
    1 - 1 John Force 1761
    2 - 2 Matt Hagan 1655
    3 - 4 Jack Beckman 1524
    4 - 8 Robert Hight 1446
    5 - 3 Ashley Force Hood 1413
    6 - 5 Bob Tasca III 1381
    7 - 7 Ron Capps 1282
    8 - 10 Tim Wilkerson 1237
    9 - 6 Del Worsham 1226
    10 - 11 Cruz Pedregon 1118
    11 - 12 Jeff Arend 1034
    12 - 9 Tony Pedregon 1015
    13 Paul Lee 767
    14 Jim Head 724
    15 Melanie Troxel 571

    PRO STOCK
    1 - 3 Mike Edwards 1990
    2 - 6 Allen Johnson 1644
    3 - 1 Greg Anderson 1626
    4 - 7 Jeg Coughlin 1552
    5 - 5 Jason Line 1319
    6 - 4 Shane Gray 1256
    7 - 2 Greg Stanfield 1253
    8 - 8 Ron Krisher 1089
    9 - 10 Johnny Gray 982
    10 - 9 Rodger Brogdon 973
    11 V. Gaines 916
    12 Kurt Johnson 878
    13 Warren Johnson 807
    14 Bob Yonke 725
    15 Larry Morgan 636

    PRO STOCK MOTORCYCLE
    1 - 2 Andrew Hines 1470
    2 - 5 Hector Arana 1252
    3 - 1 LE Tonglet 1235
    4 - 4 Matt Smith 1149
    5 - 3 Eddie Krawiec 1116
    6 - 7 Michael Phillips 1035
    7 - 6 Steve Johnson 981
    8 - 8 Karen Stoffer 823
    9 - 11 Jim Underdahl 820
    10 - 10 David Hope 730
    11 - 12 Angie Smith 701
    12 - 13 Shawn Gann 654
    13 - 9 Craig Treble 633
    14 Mike Berry 399
    15 Redell Harris 267
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    Note Ashley Force Hood would have been 1 point shy of a world championship and Antron Brown would have won his first 3 years ago.
    For 2009:
    (Position without countdown - position WITH countdown)
    TOP FUEL
    1 - 3 Antron Brown 1885
    2 - 2 Larry Dixon 1832
    3 - 1 Tony Schumacher 1812
    4 - 4 Cory McClenathan 1534
    5 - 5 Brandon Bernstein 1483
    6 - 6 Spencer Massey 1448
    7 - 7 Morgan Lucas 1358
    8 - 9 Shawn Langdon 1263
    9 - 8 Doug Kalitta 1113
    10 - 10 Clay Millican 806
    11 Joe Hartley 689
    12 Terry Haddock 595
    13 Troy Buff 382
    14 Steven Chrisman 297
    15 Mike Strasburg 267

    FUNNY CAR
    1 - 6 Tony Pedregon 1657
    2 - 2 Ashely Force Hood 1656
    3 - 3 Ron Capps 1603
    4 - 1 Robert Hight 1435
    5 - 4 Tim Wilkerson 1404
    6 - 5 Jack Beckman 1383
    7 - 8 Bob Tasca III 1327
    8 - 7 Del Worsham 1295
    9 - 9 John Force 1231
    10 - 10 Mike Neff 1153
    11 Matt Hagan 1,139
    12 Cruz Pedregon 1,103
    13 Jeff Arend 845
    14 Jerry Toliver 774
    15 Jim Head 662

    PRO STOCK
    1 - 1 Mike Edwards 2039
    2 - 3 Jason Line 1856
    3 - 5 Jeg Coughlin 1815
    4 - 2 Greg Anderson 1768
    5 - 7 Allen Johnson 1395
    6 - 4 Greg Stanfield 1319
    7 - 6 Ron Krisher 1213
    8 - 8 Kurt Johnson 1121
    9 - 9 Johnny Gray 1058
    10 - 11 Larry Morgan 939
    11 - 10 Rickie Jones 905
    12 Warren Johnson 894
    13 Rodger Brogdon 790
    14 Steve Spiess 516
    15 V. Gaines 495

    PRO STOCK MOTORCYCLE
    1 - 2 Eddie Krawiec 1537
    2 - 1 Hector Arana 1359
    3 - 3 Andrew Hines 1239
    4 - 4 Matt Smith 1087
    5 - 5 Douglas Horne 1069
    6 - 6 Michael Phillips 886
    7 - 9 Craig Treble 886
    8 - 8 Shawn Gann 767
    9 - 7 Karen Stoffer 760
    10 - 11 Steve Johnson 690
    11 - 12 Junior Pippen 661
    12 - 10 Matt Guidera 583
    13 David Hope 433
    14 Bailey Whitaker 419
    15 Mike Berry 350
  • slugbelchslugbelch Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    Thanks alot. It's very interesting looking at these stats...
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    For 2008:
    (Position without countdown - position WITH countdown)
    TOP FUEL
    1 - 1 Tony Schumacher 2377
    2 - 2 Larry Dixon 1535
    3 - 5 Antron Brown 1507
    4 - 3 Cory McClenathan 1462
    5 - 6 Rod Fuller 1384
    6 - 4 Hillary Will 1358
    7 - 7 Brandon Bernstein 1336
    8 - 8 Doug Herbert 1203
    9 - 9 Doug Kalitta 1043
    10 - 11 J.R. Todd 983
    11 - 10 David Grubnic 982
    12 Morgan Lucas 966
    13 Bob Vandergriff 842
    14 Troy Buff 478
    15 Steve Torrence 372

    FUNNY CAR
    1 - 2 Tim Wilkerson 1639
    2 - 1 Cruz Pedregon 1536
    3 - 4 Robert Hight 1506
    4 - 5 Tony Pedregon 1504
    5 - 3 Jack Beckman 1365
    6 - 6 Ashley Force 1310
    7 - 7 John Force 1184
    8 - 8 Ron Capps 1184
    9 - 9 Mike Neff 1155
    10 - 10 Gary Densham 1122
    11 Melanie Troxel 932
    12 Bob Tasca III 893
    13 Del Worsham 862
    14 Gary Scelzi 817
    15 Jerry Toliver 734

    PRO STOCK
    1 - 2 Greg Anderson 1672
    2 - 1 Jeg Coughlin 1657
    3 - 3 Kurt Johnson 1649
    4 - 4 Jason Line 1474
    5 - 7 Allen Johnson 1399
    6 - 6 Dave Connolly 1343
    7 - 4 Mike Edwards 1320
    8 - 8 Greg Stanfield 1129
    9 - 9 V. Gaines 1108
    10 - 10 Ron Krisher 996
    11 Warren Johnson 970
    12 Justin Humphreys 937
    13 Jim Yates 811
    14 Larry Morgan 790
    15 Johnny Gray 722

    PRO STOCK MOTORCYCLE
    1 - 3 Matt Smith 1341
    2 - 4 Andrew Hines 1219
    3 - 1 Eddie Krawiec 1137
    4 - 2 Chris Rivas 1133
    5 - 6 Chip Ellis 1041
    6 - 5 Angelle Sampey 972
    7 - 7 Steve Johnson 938
    8 - 8 Craig Treble 906
    9 - 10 Matt Guidera 813
    10 - 11 Hector Arana 743
    11 - 9 Karen Stoffer 725
    12 Mike Berry 514
    13 Angie McBride 477
    14 Junior Pippen 468
    15 Shawn Gann 376
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    For 2007 which included 2 different points resets from the countdown to four and countdown to 1.
    (Position without countdown - position WITH countdown)
    TOP FUEL
    1 - 2 Rod Fuller 1617
    2 - 4 Larry Dixon 1478
    3 - 1 Tony Schumacher 1472
    4 - 3 Brandon Bernstein 1451
    5 - 7 J.R. Todd 1242
    6 - 5 Bob Vandergriff 1214
    7 - 9 Melanie Troxel 1173
    8 - 6 Doug Herbert 1084
    9 - 10 Doug Kalitta 1045
    10 - 11 David Grubnic 1023
    11 - 8 Whit Bazemore 989
    12 Cory McClenathan 971
    13 Hillary Will 892
    14 Clay Millican 826
    15 Morgan Lucas 790

    FUNNY CAR
    1 - 2 Robert Hight 1408
    2 - 4 Ron Capps 1393
    3 - 1 Tony Pedregon 1373
    4 - 3 Gary Scelzi 1230
    5 - 5 Jack Beckman 1219
    6 - 6 Mike Ashley 1201
    7 - 7 John Force 1093
    8 - 9 Del Worsham 1050
    9 - 8 Jim Head 966
    10 Ashley Force 960
    11 Jeff Arend 934
    12 Cruz Pedregon 925
    13 Tommy Johnson Jr. 916
    14 Kenny Bernstein 903
    15 Tim Wilkerson 884

    PRO STOCK
    1 - 2 Greg Anderson 1898
    2 - 3 Dave Connolly 1813
    3 - 1 Jeg Coughlin 1634
    4 - 4 Allen Johnson 1280
    5 - 5 Jason Line 1228
    6 - 6 Kurt Johnson 1157
    7 - 9 Richie Stevens 1056
    8 - 10 V. Gaines 1025
    9 - 7 Larry Morgan 999
    10 - 8 Warren Johnson 963
    11 Jim Yates 871
    12 Greg Stanfield 842
    13 Max Naylor 829
    14 Kenny Koretsky 722
    15 Justin Humphreys 719

    PRO STOCK MOTORCYCLE
    1 - 1 Matt Smith 1329
    2 - 2 Andrew Hines 1217
    3 - 5 Angelle Sampey 1050
    4 - 3 Chip Ellis 1021
    5 - 4 Peggy Llewellyn 901
    6 - 6 Craig Treble 831
    7 - 8 Karen Stoffer 829
    8 - 7 Eddie Krawiec 800
    9 Steve Johnson 746
    10 Antron Brown 708
    11 Chris Rivas 689
    12 Matt Guidera 645
    13 Hector Arana 593
    14 Geno Scali 565
    15 Michael Phillips 397
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    That would be all 6 seasons and how they turned out had the countdown to the championship never been invented. Some interesting champions on the list that are different. Rod Fuller and Tim Wilkerson for example. Antron Brown would have been the first african american champion 3 years ago in 2009. I believe that would have been his rookie season in Top Fuel. The rules are as they are and everyone knows the game going in. Obviously this is all just for fun and to see what might have been. It's also interesting looking back over some of the names in the top 15 over the last 6 years and see who is and isn't still out there competing.
  • slugbelchslugbelch Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    Thanks. Got to keep this thread around for the years to come.

    Since you got it covered to the start, you got any brain power left to do the 2006 (TF anyway) if it were the countdown? just to see where Sarge would be and how insignificant that world record would have been, to what it has become:

    http://forum.competitionplus.com/showthread.php?p=141941#post141941

    Got to admit, its one hell of a way to end one of the longest NHRA traditions other than the burnout :D
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    For the 2006 Top Fuel Season:
    Using the 2007 Countdown to 4 and Countdown to 1, These would be the top 8 that get reset after Memphis:
    1. Doug Kalitta 1,270
    2. Tony Schumacher 1,134
    3. Brandon Bernstein 1,118
    4. Melanie Troxel 1,112
    5. David Grubnic 966
    6. Rod Fuller 937
    7. Larry Dixon 911
    8. Morgan Lucas 830

    Then after Richmond, the top 4 would get reset for Vegas and Pomona:
    1 Brandon Bernstein 2364
    2 Tony Schumacher 2352
    3 Rod Fuller 2341
    4 Doug Kalitta 2315
    5 Melanie Troxel 2271
    6 David Grubnic 2263
    7 Larry Dixon 2165
    8 Morgan Lucas 2149

    The final year end standings:
    (Position WITH countdown - position without countdown)
    1 - 1 Tony Schumacher 3275
    2 - 3 Brandon Bernstein 3163
    3 - 2 Doug Kalitta 3152
    4 - 5 Rod Fuller 3135
    5 - 4 Melanie Troxel 2399
    6 - 6 David Grubnic 2349
    7 - 7 Larry Dixon 2250
    8 - 11 Morgan Lucas 2196
    9 - 8 J.R. Todd 1105
    10 - 9 Cory McClenathan 1036
    11 - 10 Hillary Will 1035

    Using the 2008 Countdown that included the top 10 and reset from 2090-1980 after Memphis:
    (Position WITH countdown - position without countdown)
    1 - 1 Tony Schumacher 2607
    2 - 3 Brandon Bernstein 2497
    3 - 2 Doug Kalitta 2487
    4 - 5 Rod Fuller 2467
    5 - 4 Melanie Troxel 2399
    6 - 6 David Grubnic 2349
    7 - 9 Cory McClenathan 2275
    8 - 7 Larry Dixon 2250
    9 - 10 Hillary Will 2224
    10 - 11 Morgan Lucas 2196

    Using the 2009 - Present Countdown that included the top 10 reset from 2110-2000 after Memphis:
    (Position WITH countdown - position without countdown)
    1 - 1 Tony Schumacher 2627
    2 - 3 Brandon Bernstein 2517
    3 - 2 Doug Kalitta 2507
    4 - 5 Rod Fuller 2487
    5 - 4 Melanie Troxel 2419
    6 - 6 David Grubnic 2369
    7 - 9 Cory McClenathan 2295
    8 - 7 Larry Dixon 2270
    9 - 10 Hillary Will 2244
    10 - 11 Morgan Lucas 2216

    Instead of The Run being a clincher for Tony it would have been for Brandon had he had the chance. The championship would have ended in the semi-finals when Tony beat Brandon. IF Brandon would have won and went on to set the record in the finals instead HE would have beat The Sarge by 8 points in the 2007 format or by 10 points in the 2008-present formats. (60 less points for Tony, 60 more points for Brandon.) However, at that point Brandon had a best time of 4.473. If he ran the 4.428 in the final instead of Tony, the required backup would have been a 4.472. He would have lost by .001. He did have a potential backup at that point however to beat the 4.437 needed. :) Ain't history great?
  • KingnitroKingnitro Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    I would love to see a struggling team, not get a single round win the first 10 races, start coming on at the right time, just sqeak into the Countdown! Then just own the last 3-4 races!
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    Kingnitro wrote: »
    I would love to see a struggling team, not get a single round win the first 10 races, start coming on at the right time, just sqeak into the Countdown! Then just own the last 3-4 races!

    Uh that kind of already happened with Robert Hight in 2009.
  • slugbelchslugbelch Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    ^ Then the opposite happened to him this year. I remember, around the middle of the season when he started to not go rounds, that Mike or PP said during a show that they were saving all the good parts, from early in the year, to use in the countdown.

    That plan (if there really was one) didn't work out too well.
  • jdm894gjdm894g Member
    edited November 2012
    Man, where are some of these folks...

    Peggy Llewellen? JR Todd(why can't he get a full time ride?), Scelzi? Hot Rod Fuller(no full time ride), Justin Humphreys?
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Updated for 2013 after Charlotte if you'd like to follow the "regular season" to the finish. The +/- is position change. Underlined section means everyone from there down is officially out of the championship.

    Top Fuel

    1. Shawn Langdon 1,528
    2. Spencer Massey 1,367
    3. Tony Schumacher 1,280
    4. Doug Kalitta 1,157
    5. Khalid alBalooshi 1,111
    6. Morgan Lucas 1,092 +2
    7. Clay Millican 1,053
    8. Antron Brown 1,045 -2
    9. Steve Torrence 927
    10. Bob Vandergriff 872
    11. David Grubnic 784
    12. Brandon Bernstein 688
    13. Brittany Force 644
    14. Terry McMillen 630
    15. Leah Pruett 391

    Funny Car

    1. Matt Hagan 1,401
    2. Ron Capps 1,235
    3. Jack Beckman 1,182 +2
    4. John Force 1,171
    5. Cruz Pedregon 1,160 +1
    6. Johnny Gray 1,157 -3
    7. Courtney Force 1,147
    8. Robert Hight 1,133 +1
    9. Tim Wilkerson 1,060 -1
    10. Del Worsham 985
    11. Bob Tasca III 975
    12. Alexis DeJoria 770
    13. Jeff Arend 639
    14. Tony Pedregon 568
    15. Chad Head 446

    Pro Stock

    1. Mike Edwards 1,751
    2. Allen Johnson 1,500
    3. Jeg Coughlin 1,466
    4. Vincent Nobile 1,180
    5. Jason Line 1,173 +1
    6. Shane Gray 1,148 -1
    7. Greg Anderson 1,106
    8. V. Gaines 1,032
    9. Erica Enders-Stevens 854
    10. Rodger Brogdon 786
    11. Larry Morgan 579 +1
    12. Rickie Jones 568 -1
    13. Greg Stanfield 511
    14. Steve Kent 491
    15. Chris McGaha 322

    Pro Stock Motorcycle

    1. Hector Arana Jr 922
    2. Matt Smith 811
    3. Michael Ray 717
    4. Hector Arana 717 +1
    5. John Hall 681 -1
    6. Scotty Pollacheck 654
    7. Eddie Krawiec 559
    8. LE Tonglet 544 +1
    9. Adam Arana 527 -1
    10. Andrew Hines 526 +2
    11. Shawn Gann 493 -1
    12. Steve Johnson 491 -1
    13. Angie Smith 373
    14. Mike Berry 362
    15. Jim Underdahl 349

    3rd-8th in Funny Car separated by 49 points! :eek:
  • slugbelchslugbelch Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    de31168 wrote: »
    Updated for 2013 after Charlotte if you'd like to follow the "regular season" to the finish. The +/- is position change. Underlined section means everyone from there down is officially out of the championship. 3rd-8th in Funny Car separated by 49 points! :eek:
    Thanks! I was wondering how it may turn out "the other way" :cool:
    Looks like EE would be out
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Yep 750 is the magic number so she'd be done.
  • HEMI_guyHEMI_guy Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    de31168 wrote: »
    Updated for 2013 after Charlotte if you'd like to follow the "regular season" to the finish. The +/- is position change. Underlined section means everyone from there down is officially out of the championship.

    By change you mean from last event or from their current position because DRC shows Massey as #1. Lucas 3rd. Schu. 5th.
  • anotheridiotanotheridiot Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    HEMI_guy wrote: »
    By change you mean from last event or from their current position because DRC shows Massey as #1. Lucas 3rd. Schu. 5th.

    Those standings are after the countdown reset, just like NHRA's site. He is keeping track of points gained if there was no reset for the countdown.
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    HEMI_guy wrote: »
    By change you mean from last event or from their current position because DRC shows Massey as #1. Lucas 3rd. Schu. 5th.

    This would represent the change in points from after indy to after charlotte with no point reset. I understand what you meant about where they would be vs their current countdown position. We're just pretending that doesn't exist. :)
  • de31168de31168 Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Updated for 2013 after Dallas if you'd like to follow the "regular season" to the finish. The +/- is position change. Underlined section means everyone from there down is officially out of the championship.

    Top Fuel

    1. Shawn Langdon 1,629
    2. Spencer Massey 1,442
    3. Tony Schumacher 1,331
    4. Doug Kalitta 1,277
    5. Morgan Lucas 1,164 +1
    6. Khalid alBalooshi 1,121 -1
    7. Antron Brown 1,096 +1
    8. Clay Millican 1,089 -1
    9. Steve Torrence 963
    10. Bob Vandergriff 924
    11. David Grubnic 817
    12. Brandon Bernstein 726
    13. Brittany Force 696
    14. Terry McMillen 640
    15. Leah Pruett 391

    Funny Car

    1. Matt Hagan 1,459
    2. Cruz Pedregon 1,280 +3
    3. Ron Capps 1,273 -1
    4. John Force 1,263
    5. Jack Beckman 1,256 -2
    6. Robert Hight 1,214 +2
    7. Johnny Gray 1,210 -1
    8. Courtney Force 1,182 -1
    9. Tim Wilkerson 1,092
    10. Bob Tasca III 1,028 +1
    11. Del Worsham 1,016 -1
    12. Alexis DeJoria 802
    13. Jeff Arend 670
    14. Tony Pedregon 619
    15. Chad Head 478

    Pro Stock

    1. Mike Edwards 1,787
    2. Allen Johnson 1,556
    3. Jeg Coughlin 1,538
    4. Jason Line 1,290 +1
    5. Shane Gray 1,245 +1
    6. Vincent Nobile 1,213 -2
    7. Greg Anderson 1,139
    8. V. Gaines 1,104
    9. Erica Enders-Stevens 915
    10. Rodger Brogdon 818
    11. Larry Morgan 631
    12. Rickie Jones 627
    13. Greg Stanfield 542
    14. Steve Kent 522
    15. Chris McGaha 353

    Pro Stock Motorcycle

    1. Hector Arana Jr 1000
    2. Matt Smith 911
    4. Hector Arana 798 +1
    3. Michael Ray 773 -1
    5. John Hall 716
    6. Scotty Pollacheck 706
    7. Eddie Krawiec 673
    8. LE Tonglet 596
    9. Adam Arana 561
    10. Andrew Hines 558
    11. Shawn Gann 524
    12. Steve Johnson 501
    13. Angie Smith 404
    14. Mike Berry 393
    15. Jim Underdahl 381

    Amazing how 2 thru 8 in Funny Car is still a 98 points difference but the drivers have shuffled, but Hagan still has over a full race lead. He lost early and still added 13 points to his lead!
  • HEMI_guyHEMI_guy Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    I never liked the clowndown but if it nets a championship for Kallita... I'll simply look the other way for a while! Doug and the team deserve a championship!
  • Eugene GrayEugene Gray Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    HEMI_guy wrote: »
    I never liked the clowndown but if it nets a championship for Kallita... I'll simply look the other way for a while! Doug and the team deserve a championship!
    Even though over the winter I predicted Spencer to win it this year, I wouldn't mind seeing Doug take it. Doug and all his guys are a really nice and hard working group.
  • alkysbcalkysbc Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Thanks for updating the Regular Season points, its always interesting to see things for how they really are. I know that in a lot of past seasons, the fat lady had sung by this point, and the remaining races were just to see where the 2-thru whatever positions fell. I still think its a slap in the face to folks like Mike Edwards, Tim Wilkerson, etc. Must suck to have dominated a season, have your points lead stripped, and give everyone else a shot at you regardless of how their season went. To me it negates the first 3/4th of the season. You couldn't have scripted a more exciting ending to a season than when Schu made "The Run" to win the championship, without the countdown. Would it happen every year, no...but when it did, I think it would have more excitement factor than the fake points chase the countdown (clowndown) creates.

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