The Young Drag Race Crowd

The Young Drag Race Crowd

a21studa21stud Senior Member
edited October 2018 in NHRA
Saw on Facebook the drone photos of the totally maxed out pits and spectator parking at Orlando Speedworld's 4 day Import race this weekend.

Yes, it's a smaller track than Vegas but it's packed without the nitro classes that are supposed to be the only way to pack a track.

Here's the Vegas Pro Stock Qualifying Results:
NHRA Pro Stock
500 cu. in. Fuel Injected
low qualifier 6.628@206.73
15 Camaro
1 Dodge

Here's Orlando Speedworld Sport Compact Extreme Pro class for
4 & 6 cylinder or rotary motors only.
Low Qualifier 5.838@ 252.14
2 Scions
3 Camrys
3 Celicas
2 RX 7 or 8s
2 Nisson Z's
1 Solara
1 Toyota's ?

7 from Puerto Rico
5 from Florida
1 from Australia
1 from New Zealand
1 from New York
1 from Alabama!

The spectators are young and there's not one Chevy, Ford or Mopar. (They don't even know there is a debate regarding Mopar or Chrysler or Fiat. They don't even know Dodges were Chrysler products and now Fiat.)

Ozzie probably doesn't want NHRA or the other trackowners to know about this as he's got to be smiling all the way to the bank. (This is the same guy who owns SGMP and partners with the Duck for the highly successful small tire races.).
On this import race he doesn't have "franchise fees" like a NHRA national event track owner does.

What this is showing is that drag racing isn't dead, it's just evolving and the NHRA National Event isn't the only racing that draws car enthusiasts. Via Va La Difference?

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  • HEMI_guyHEMI_guy Senior Member
    edited October 2018
    a21stud wrote: »
    Saw on Facebook the drone photos of the totally maxed out pits and spectator parking at Orlando Speedworld's 4 day Import race this weekend.

    Yes, it's a smaller track than Vegas but it's packed without the nitro classes that are supposed to be the only way to pack a track.

    Yeah it's ONE event like that a year. Think they could maintain that sort of attendance for 24?
  • comp 670comp 670 Senior Member
    edited October 2018
    HEMI_guy wrote: »
    Yeah it's ONE event like that a year. Think they could maintain that sort of attendance for 24?

    Exactly! Its WAY easier to get a big turnout for one race then it is for a series. Its just not a real comparison.


    Until Duck and all those other promoters pull in the crowds they do for a SERIES its not the same.


    Its cool they are getting younger people into racing though.
  • Tim CharletTim Charlet Senior Member
    edited October 2018
    comp 670 wrote: »
    Exactly! Its WAY easier to get a big turnout for one race then it is for a series. Its just not a real comparison.


    Until Duck and all those other promoters pull in the crowds they do for a SERIES its not the same.


    Its cool they are getting younger people into racing though.

    We hosted an Import event today at Wild Horse Pass Motorsports Park. Had about 150 cars entered in "time trials" with a few minor competition classes. However, the event also showcased a car show and a drift event. Gate was rather impressive and well attended - with some good attendance. Like Mark said, "one off's" are easy - doing it frequently is something entirely different.
  • a21studa21stud Senior Member
    edited October 2018
    comp 670 wrote: »
    Exactly! Its WAY easier to get a big turnout for one race then it is for a series. Its just not a real comparison.


    Its cool they are getting younger people into racing though.

    Yes it is cool they are getting the younger people into racing and keeping another drag strip alive.

    [QUOTE=comp 670;216129]Until Duck and all those other promoters pull in the crowds they do for a SERIES its not the same.

    But that’s why a smart track operator like Ozzie Moya would just as soon NHRA stay away with their program. He’s most assuredly making more money with his specialty races like the World Street Nationals and the Import race than he ever could as a ½ share partner of only 1 of 24 NHRA National Events.

    He shares with no one and he doesn’t have to spend his money on things that NHRA demands other than safety stuff. His deal isn’t split with NHRA AND his racers (entertainers) are not overburdened dragging their stuff all over the country chasing a non-profit Wally. (You did know NHRA was non-profit, right? You probably just thought it was the organization and not the racer/performers.)

    There are other import races every year but the import racers are not being “forced” to attend 24 events and go find their own funding to do it or fund it out of their pockets when it’s obvious that it will cost more to run a 24 race series than they would ever re-coop unless they win every race.

    The sponsors of NHRA cars have got to know that only a few will see positive ROI for their investment. The import cars that came over to the states from New Zealand, Australia and Puerto Rico are probably also all losing money on the trip unless they win the first place $$$. That’s still a lot cheaper than living here and running 24 races all across this country even if you do come in first.

    I’ve heard that the Bader’s make more money from their Night of Fire than they do with their national event. So they must still be making money at both events of the money loser would be gone. But it kind of says something when a track in PA gives up their NHRA national event.

    Pro Mod is a healthy class car count wise and also attendance wise or the multitude of track owners with independent Pro Mod races wouldn't promote them.

    Pro Mods have more chances to race than any other 200+ mph class for a very good reason. For years… no decades... Pro Mod has had a tremendous number of race cars around the country willing to chase the trophy or short series championship of THEIR choice and not just NHRA’s short series. Pro Mod car owners have a lot of races they can chose to attend (or not attend).

    News flash… It’s not just NHRA national events that draw the majority of them to build/buy a Pro Mod car and spend their money just racing it on the weekends “THEY” choose.

    How to kill Pro Mod? Make them only race NHRA national events and make them run all 24.

    Comp670 you said it right. It’s WAY easier to get a big turnout for one race then it is for a series.

    So who are the money losers for running NHRA’s 24 race Pro Stock series?
    NHRA?
    Nope….
  • a21studa21stud Senior Member

    Coming up October 24-27

    Orlando Speedworld’s FuelTech Sports Compact World Challenge

    That once a year OSW race that absolutely packs the place very tightly with the under 30 crowd we think doesn’t like drag racing. Like NHRA, I sure wish I had a piece of the gate.

  • HEMI_guyHEMI_guy Senior Member

    Could it be "packed" due it being obly one big even only once a year?

  • a21studa21stud Senior Member

    With the exception of Norwalk, most NHRA national event tracks are only packed once a year. Gators for sure.

    I’ve heard Norwalks Night of Fire has bigger attendance than their national event. And they don’t share that with NHRA.

    Remember the major reason NHRA went to 24 races? When they only had 12 nat’l. events they shared the nitro cars with AHRA and IHRA. When Jim Tice passed, AHRA ceased to be competition and by adding events, NHRA was ultimately able to keep the stars away from IHRA too.

    NHRA has tight control of the top teams and apparently is happy with that. IHRA gave up trying book a top crowd pulling T/F or Funny Car 8 car field. The better nitro cars would get their hand slapped if they raced IHRA.

    Back to the topic of packing the stands at a non-NHRA nat’l. event track. It’s being done but with a different show. Pro Mods, no-prep, imports door cars faster than Pro Stock, small tire door cars faster than Pro Stock and nostalgia races.

    The smart promoters make sure their “cost of show” is well below the gross amount of ticket sale return will be for just half filled stands. That way they can and sometimes do “hit a home run”.

    its also why many track owners wouldn’t dare book even a 4 car nitro or Pro Stock show. They know their cost of show would be too high for the number of seats they have to sell and even the tickets they could sell.

  • rognelson777rognelson777 Member
    edited September 29

    The racing world has changed, but has not changed. Listened to a podcast with wes Buck and Shane Tecklenburg. (Tecklenburg is tuning Elites Pro Mods this year)

    Main point he brought up is Et and speed records. His question was, who was the 1st to go 300 mph in a funny car? Who won the championship that year? It was 1993. Records are what people want to see and remember.

    The import races, promod, and small tire races all talk about who has the fastest Combo in their class. Many times the big news from one of these events is who set a record, not who won. This past weekend marcus birt went 3.57 in the 1/8 mile on a 315 radial tire and that is what I remember from the event,

    Go to GRS motorsports website and there is a list constantly updated on fastest 4 and 6 cylinder cars as well as rotaries. The young racers/fans I know use that list like I use to use National dragster.

    I do not even know what the records are for NHRA prostock. Remember the 6 second club was a big deal in prostock


    I know there are more than 24 big events in the country , yes different types of cars but still big events.

    Atco has 3 import events now, maple grove even has a import event. MAryland has a huge event right after orlandos event. Maryland event had 2 turbo 4 cylinder door cars running 6.20 at over 220 mph. 122 cubic inches

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